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  • #76
    Originally posted by DinoDoc

    If Zylka, of all people, says something was a mistake, take his word for it.
    I'm smart enough not to follow the links/directions of Zylka when he refers to any "questionable" site or image. I guess some people let their curiosity get the better of them.
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    • #77
      Originally posted by Spiffor

      Because you have to bring 120,000 extra troops after having discovered the resistance is tougher than you thought ?
      I'm not claiming the war would have been won in one week. I'm merely saying your strategy widely underestimated the Iraqi resistance, and widely overestimated the warm welcome your troops will get. I thought the wild optimism at the beginning of the war was pure PRopaganda. It seems it was the strategical hypothesis.
      There was a tug a war where Powell wanted to use over welling force and bring a half million man Army into Iraq (the Powell doctrine calls for using over welling force or no force at all) while Rumsfield (a former Air Force Pilot insisted the planes and PGMs could do it a la Afghanistan with only a small ground force (he originally said 60k to 150k) to mop up the Iraqis. History shows that an "Air power alone" approach is doomed to failure but Rumsfield was successful in keeping the number of troops down to 250k instead of the 500k Powell thought was necissary.
      Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
        Right now, although it's spin central, my sense is that this is finally making the (proper) transition from the war of the chickenhawks to the war of the professionals.
        That would be about time. I hope the chickenhawks will keep a low profile until the end of the war. I also hope the military will have some "political" objectives : from what I've seen in the French press (AFAIK, no French journalist has been expelled from Baghdad), the mood of the Iraqis towards Americans is becoming terrible, most notably after the explosion on the market (60 Chi'ites dead).

        The USUK army really has to restore its image among the Iraqis if it doesn't want to face a civilian-led urban guerilla. I hope the idelogues won't botch it again.
        "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
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        • #79
          Originally posted by Boris Godunov
          I only wish you had done that before I did the search. Now I'm scarred for life.
          Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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          • #80
            scato porn. Probably the only porn I've seen so far that has really disgusted me.
            "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
            "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
            "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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            • #81
              I just looked it up. It's not scat. It's a "regugitated" enima.
              Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Spiffor
                scato porn. Probably the only porn I've seen so far that has really disgusted me.
                You haven't looked hard enough. There is a ton of really revolting stuff out there...that's why I always tread veeeeeery carefully on Kazaa!
                Tutto nel mondo è burla

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                • #83
                  I dread to ask...what the hell is scato porn?
                  Skeptics should forego any thought of convincing the unconvinced that we hold the torch of truth illuminating the darkness. A more modest, realistic, and achievable goal is to encourage the idea that one may be mistaken. Doubt is humbling and constructive; it leads to rational thought in weighing alternatives and fully reexamining options, and it opens unlimited vistas.

                  Elie A. Shneour Skeptical Inquirer

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by CapTVK
                    I dread to ask...what the hell is scato porn?
                    This thread is going to die a quick death at the hands of the mods.
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                    • #85
                      Amazing how you figure those things out, DD...

                      Since the subject has now changed from Robin Cook, to, er, um, "other subjects," I hereby consign this thread to the deep.
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