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  • Are you an anarchist?

    I got a link to this site from a liberal website.

    This is an anarchist website.

    Welcome to InfoShop. A website about political systems such as anarchy, political history and political news.  Here you can learn more about different political systems, their benefits and drawbacks. 


    And people continue to say anti-war people aren't anti american. Granted anarchists don't make up most of the anti-war crowd, they do make up a significant portion.

    What I don't understand is how people can be so stupid to believe this as a viable way of life. I don't get it. Am I missing something?

    "Anarchism, therefore, is a political theory that aims to create a society which is without political, economic or social hierarchies. Anarchists maintain that anarchy, the absence of rulers, is a viable form of social system and so work for the maximisation of individual liberty and social equality. They see the goals of liberty and equality as mutually self-supporting."

    "So Anarchism is a political theory which advocates the creation of anarchy, a society based on the maxim of "no rulers." To achieve this, "[i]n common with all socialists, the anarchists hold that the private ownership of land, capital, and machinery has had its time; that it is condemned to disappear: and that all requisites for production must, and will, become the common property of society, and be managed in common by the producers of wealth. And. . . they maintain that the ideal of the political organisation of society is a condition of things where the functions of government are reduced to minimum. . . [and] that the ultimate aim of society is the reduction of the functions of government to nil -- that is, to a society without government, to an-archy""

    "All branches of anarchism are opposed to capitalism. This is because capitalism is based upon oppression and exploitation"


    I don't have much to add here. We live in a captialist country. If they don't like it they can leave. But they won't do that. Instead they are trying to overthrow the U.S. goverment. These aren't just peace (and other types) of protests. Again they don't represent the majority of peace protestors, but there are quite a few anarchists in their ranks.

    So many protestors who do not break the law I have no problem with. But quite a few of them in Chicago and San Francisco are attempting to shut down goverment buildings and businesses which is in tune with the anarchist movement.

    Why is it they are not considered traitors?
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  • #2
    Yes I am. That, however, doesn't mean I have much in common with any other anarchists at all.

    edit:
    If they don't like it they can leave.
    i always find this way of reacting against people with different views and ideas to be very "interesting". Why should anarchists leave as opposed to other groups that want changes? Maybe blacks that doesn't like the way they are threated should leave? Or homosexuals...

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    • #3
      Yes I am. And we are considered traitors. There's a good chance that your locality has laws criminalizing anarchists, even if they aren't enforced anymore.
      "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
      -Bokonon

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      • #4
        my locality is a fairly new city. I seriously doubt we have any laws against anarchists. My city was created in the 20th century.

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        • #5
          In that case, then probably not.
          "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
          -Bokonon

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          • #6
            There's a good chance that your locality has laws criminalizing anarchists, even if they aren't enforced anymore.


            It's high time we enforced them.
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            ASHER FOR CEO!!
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            • #7
              I do not believe it is in human nature to not exploit people. People will stab even their friends in their back to get ahead. There have been college studies that have proven this.

              While you can argue that the ideal is to treat each other fairly, I'm certain that is not possible. These things are hard wired into our survival of the fittest code.

              Capitalism is very exploitive. But it is also the most natural system around.

              Can you imagine the level of exploitation that would exist in anarchy? It would be more exploitation of the strongest instead of the smartest. But that hardly makes it better. And quality of life would be non-existant.

              At least this way I get to use indoor plumbing and have electricity to power my computer to post at Apolyton. .

              That is more than enough reason to believe this is the best system around.

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              • #8
                There has been a lot of things that have been proven by college studies. Also you're confusing normative statements and opinions with science. To use the words of David Hume, you cannot derive an 'ought' from an 'is'.

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                • #9
                  Dissident, will you leave the country if the government does something you don't like?

                  Btw, I'm an anarchist of sorts, although not a leftist. Maximising freedom is my goal, not "equality". And I don't see how both can exist within the same system since freedom will have to be compromised to achieve "equality".

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                  • #10
                    *singing* I am a bananaist, I am an antichrist...
                    My words are backed with hard coconuts.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Are you an anarchist?

                      No.
                      urgh.NSFW

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                      • #12
                        No, but I'd like to be one day.
                        When one is someone, why should one want to be something?
                        ~Gustave Flaubert

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                        • #13
                          I don't believe anarchy is workable, just as true communism isn't.

                          I'm a social democrat - even though we can never achieve true equality, we should try and improve the lives of people as best we can in democratic system.

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                          • #14
                            ewww. social democrats. the worst of the two worlds.
                            urgh.NSFW

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                            • #15
                              I am an Antidisbananist.
                              (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                              (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                              (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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