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**Lonestar** · March 21, 2003, 17:26

Agathon, do you know why the Chinese embassy was bombed in Serbia?

Az · March 21, 2003, 17:29

I actually believed them in Gulf War 1 and that turned out to be lies

a) large civilian casualties in GW1?
b) the number of smart weapons that were used in GW1 was very low, while the majority of the weapons of GW2 are guided.

**DanS** · March 21, 2003, 17:30

Smart weapons are better now?

Quite a bit better. Where have you been?

**Prometheus** · March 21, 2003, 17:38

Originally posted by Agathon

Smart weapons are better now? Targeted strikes will minimize collateral damage? I actually believed them in Gulf War 1 and that turned out to be lies, so why should I believe them now. Given that not long ago the US put a bomb through the Chinese embassy we should take their words with a pinch of salt.

Well be fair, we hit what we were aiming for; it just wasn’t what we thought it was.

**CapTVK** · March 21, 2003, 17:39

Originally posted by Oerdin

A city is not being turned to rubble. Please watch the news and learn what is happening.

That comment reminds of a long time ago when MWHC was slagging off the Russians about the way they levelled the city of Grozny and said the USA would never do that, although they damn well could if they pleased.

Guess the USA just has a better PR firm eh?

So what happens when they run out of palaces to bomb?

**Sava** · March 21, 2003, 17:43

Smart weapons are only as smart as the leaders in control of them.

**GePap** · March 21, 2003, 18:16

This bomberdment is im[pressive only when compared to other televised bombardments of the past: I think the Russian leveling of Grozny would have looked much more frightening on TV, specially since you would see the flashes of arty from the city. And those pics form the bombers as cities were bombed in WW2: that's frightening to watch. I am sure for the people of Baghdad, any amount of bombing is scary enough.

But 30 odd medium size building taken out in a city of 4-5 million people is not "utter devstation". Also, these buildings are "typical" targets, so I am sure they were relatively empty. If the Iraqis were smart, they would have placed all incriminating files into those building, so that the USAF did all their shredding job for them for free.

(hint, hint, medium sized..so that no one starts making WTC comparisons..)

**Drake Tungsten** · March 21, 2003, 18:19

If the Iraqis were smart, they would have placed all incriminating files into those building, so that the USAF did all their shredding job for them for free.

I think you've read Jacques Chirac's mind with that post...

**GePap** · March 21, 2003, 18:23

Drake..has your imagination run so dry? or perhaps you have this hidden crush on Chirac, and act like a little boy who likes a girl and shows it by hitting her?

Basically, you are approching "Paitkis with the Turks", "Fez and Gays" level....

**Sava** · March 21, 2003, 18:23

I think you've read Jacques Chirac's mind with that post...

And Ronny Reagan's... although I'm sure the current Bush admin has taken care of most of it.

**Drake Tungsten** · March 21, 2003, 18:29

Basically, you are approching "Paitkis with the Turks", "Fez and Gays" level....

I'm not secretly French, so I don't really fit in with those two...

**GePap** · March 21, 2003, 18:31

Drake, its time to start being honest with yourself...

You know, like Congressman Ney, who was the one to undertake that whole "freedom fries" crap (where does someone get a last name like Ney? isn't it FRENCH???).

Perhaps one day, lie Fez, you will come to understand the truth about your feelings....

{threadjack about Drakes secret francophilia..closed}

**Sava** · March 21, 2003, 18:33

Drake just reminded me of an interesting point. I'm just curious... but if you classify yourself as somebody who does not like France because of its opposition to the war and such, do you equally dislike countries like Saudi Arabia and Syria, whose regimes are equally as oppressive, have more connections, and supply more funds to terror? And if you go so far as to demand a boycott on French goods, do you equally support a boycott against oil companies that buy oil from Gulf States that funnel money to terrorists?

**Master Zen** · March 21, 2003, 18:37

I don't understand why there's so much U.S. anti-French feeling by some apolytoners

THAT COUNTRY WHICH YOU SO VIRULENTLY FLAME ABOUT OPENLY AIDED YOUR COUNTRY DURING ITS INDEPENDENCE AND IS THE ONLY MAJOR EUROPEAN POWER WHICH THE US HAS NOT BEEN AT WAR WITH.

Now get over it and buy some goddam FRENCH fries and gulp 'em down with a bottle of Perrier.

**Sava** · March 21, 2003, 18:39

whoa there... settle down, the mods are watching

I'll be drinking French wine tonight.

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