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  • Flag waving.......Flag burning

    In my time here there have been topics that I have choosen not to comment on such as the situation we are in now. While I love a good debate as much as the next person, I learned along time ago that there are some topics that just get heated and then turn into personal attacks rather then a good debate. Personal attacks here.......on polly......nooOOOoooo

    But something that I saw while watching the news last night has brought me to the point that I must speak out and say something because for the first time since all this started this really got to me. Last night while watching the news they were showing some footage of protesters doing what they do best......protesting the war but what raised my hackles was the fact that one of these protesters had the flag upside down and another one had a flag that they proceeded to burn while yelling "hell no we won't go." I do believe in free speech and the freedom that they enjoy to express their views. However........

    Where I have to take issue with you silly little pimple face git is that HELLO!!!! you live in a country that affords you the freedom to do these things. Another issue I have with you is that my father fought not once but three times WWII, Korea and Vietnam to allow you the precious freedom you so enjoy that gives you the right to wave that flag upside down and burn it. My uncles, one a POW and one who is still MIA gave of their lives and themsleves so that you might have that freedom to burn that flag. Yes that was a choice he made and his choice brings me nothing but pride and honor today knowing that I can sit it my own home and argue about whether I think the President or anyone else I choose is right because people gave their lives so that I could do that.

    And your "Hell no we won't go" speech is a bit outdated. Newsflash honey!! **whispers** there is no draft to send you off to war so where are you not going to. Which brings me here........You're protesting......not fighting. It doesn't look to me like you've gone anywhere and I doubt that you would have the fortitude much less the balls to go anywhere and fight for this country.

    My father fought in three wars, was shot down and at. My Uncle was a POW for 8 years in Vietnam and came back with horrible scars...physical and mental that can never be removed. He sat in his own ****e for 8 years so you......you could have the right to burn and degrade the one thing that kept him going.......our Flag and our country. That Flag that you burn and turn upside down.....look at the stripes. That red is the symbol of all the blood that was shed to give me and yes.....even you....the right to your opinions now matter how wrong or right they are. See that's what makes this country a pretty cool place to live. You.....you Flag burner.......even you have the freedom to show your contempt or your love for your country and Flag because we live in a land that is free.

    So when you want to turn that Flag upside down or burn it or shout to the hilltops how much this country sucks.........just think about this. Somewhere out there there are children and families and loved ones of people who gave their lives so that your opinion could matter. You protest something you have no first hand knowledge about, you protest something that you have no idea what it's like to have your father be in another country and only get communication from him once a month and then all you can hear in the background behind the I love you's and I miss you's are bombs going off and then the line goes dead and you don't know if your dad is alive or dead but you know if he's dead then he died fighting to maintain the freedom you so now enjoy and the freedom that gives you the right to disrespect our Flag.

    This daughter will not disrespect her country's Flag nor the Flag of my Father or his Father before him. I'm proud to show my support and to wave my Flag high because I am a proud daughter...........but most of all I AM AN AMERICAN!
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    Re: Flag waving.......Flag burning

    Flying the flag upside down is a signmal that the country is in DISTRESS. Not a symbol of disprespect.

    And the rest is simply hyper-patriot drivel.
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    • #3
      Re: Re: Flag waving.......Flag burning

      Oh, and just for you

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      • #4
        Tass, I may also think that Tia is a little too wound up over all this as well.

        But now, you're just being an ass.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Guynemer
          But now, you're just being an ass.
          I know.
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          • #6
            And thank you for proving my point once again that even simple mided git's have the right to express their opinions. It's called Freedom.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Tiamat
              It's called Freedom.
              Yep, thats whats great about this country.
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              • #8
                Not wanting to put too fine apoint on it, but Korea and Vietnam hardly ensured freedom in the US as the mainland was never even remotely threatened.

                As for flag burning, I never quite get why Americans are so attached to their flag. I couldn't care less if someone flew the Dutch flag upside down (he might be a serb ) or set fire to it. I think it has something to do with the whole Pledge of Allegiance brainwash thing they have you do as kids. There's such a thing as being too patriotic/nationalistic.

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                • #9
                  Exactly......finally one thing we both agree on.
                  Welcome to earth, my name is Tia and I'll be your tour guide for this trip.
                  Succulent and Bejeweled Mother Goddess, who is always moisturised yet never greasy, always patient yet never suffers fools~Starchild
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by lightblue
                    Not wanting to put too fine apoint on it, but Korea and Vietnam hardly ensured freedom in the US as the mainland was never even remotely threatened.

                    As for flag burning, I never quite get why Americans are so attached to their flag. I couldn't care less if someone flew the Dutch flag upside down (he might be a serb ) or set fire to it. I think it has something to do with the whole Pledge of Allegiance brainwash thing they have you do as kids. There's such a thing as being too patriotic/nationalistic.

                    As I said at the begining of this. It isn't my norm to speak out on things like this, however, when something does get to me or I really feel strongly about it I will say something. Just expressing my opinion.
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                    • #11
                      What´s the deal about flag burning? How does it secure peace? For me, it is just a waste of time and resources....
                      Blah

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by lightblue
                        Not wanting to put too fine apoint on it, but Korea and Vietnam hardly ensured freedom in the US as the mainland was never even remotely threatened.
                        Or Iraq. I should point that out

                        As for flag burning, I never quite get why Americans are so attached to their flag. I couldn't care less if someone flew the Dutch flag upside down (he might be a serb ) or set fire to it. I think it has something to do with the whole Pledge of Allegiance brainwash thing they have you do as kids. There's such a thing as being too patriotic/nationalistic.


                        I agree with you. American Children are taught to be "patriotic to their country" and while theres the teenage rebellion period, it stays with them for most of their lives.

                        Unfortunately, the hyper-patriotic nonsense occupying their minds inhibit learning and give the government much easier access to propaganda that could change their opinions.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by BeBro
                          What´s the deal about flag burning? How does it secure peace? For me, it is just a waste of time and resources....
                          I like seeing fire. Especially fire to the flag of a murderous regieme.
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                          • #14


                            You are so cute.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by BeBro


                              You are so cute.
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