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Isn't there the risk this thread transforms to a pissing contest between flag wavers and flag burners ?
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I thought flag burners had the monopoly of pictures, and got criticized by pretty everyone... I believe an ad-nauseum flag-waving here might provoke someone into even more flag-burning just so that you know who pisses further
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Originally posted by Six Thousand Year Old Man
Countries are made of people, not fabric.
Yes this is true but what the fabric represents to some people like the men in my family......well it might just be fabric to you but to them it was the symbol of all they hold and held dear and the reason they fought for their country, family and honor. It might seem silly to you but to them and to many more it's more then just fabric.
Joseph is right.........you weren't there you don't know what happened. Even I who sat and listened for hours upon his return home to the stories and attrocities these men endured...even I can't comprehend what they went through. But I can tell you this, through out everything, every story he told the one underlying theme was that he spoke of his belife in his country...that they would one day resuce them ( and we did)and how good it was to be free. That's something that until you have it taken away we tend to take for granted.
And thanks obi~ your right. I shouldn't be sorry for expressing my opinions. It might have come across patriotic and if I did then call me patriotic. I'm proud of my family and my country and I will make no apologies for that.
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Most of the American protesters burning flags are ignorant/naive and spoiled youth who are just trying to be 'cool' by imitating the Hippies of days long past (hence the shouting of archaic slogans, the donning of tie-dye, blaring of 60s music, and etc ad nausium). Most of the people who oppose the war for educated reasons spend there time at there jobs or with their families or peacefully demonstrating or doiong somethn else other than flag burning (ie, they have somethn better to do). These are the people who I can respect, even if their views are opposite mine. I dont let the moronic actions of the flag burners bother me a bit. Now if someone who I respected for their antiwar views (like spiffor) were to burn a flag.... ....i dunno what would happen. Id probbaly get upset then.
My point is, Tia, try not to let it bother you. I know how you feel, coming from a military family (and i myself may soon be in the military) myself.
Originally posted by Tiamat
It might have come across patriotic and if I did then call me patriotic. I'm proud of my family and my country and I will make no apologies for that.
I can think of worse things to be called. In my book, being called patriotic is a compliment.
Originally posted by DarthVeda
This one seems more appropriate...
I am wondering how.
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Originally posted by Kramerman
Most of the American protesters burning flags are ignorant/naive and spoiled youth who are just trying to be 'cool' by imitating the Hippies of days long past. Most of the people who oppose the war for educated reasons spend there time at there jobs or their families or peacefully demonstrating or doiong somethn else other than flag burning (ie, they have somethn better to do). These are the people who I can respect, even if their views are opposite mine. I dont let the moronic actions of the flag burners bother me a bit. Now if someone who I respected for their antiwar views (like spiffor) were to burn a flag.... ....i dunno what would happen. Id probbaly get upset then.
My point is, Tia, try not to let it bother you. I know how you feel, coming from a military family (and i myself may soon be in the military) myself.
Thank you! You put it a bit more clearly and consise then I did. That is what I was trying to get across. This was some young kid......I probably have pimples on my a$$ older then this kid was but there he was out there burning the flag. I guess I finally had to have an opinion about something
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You are forgiven because you are FABULOUS ~ Imran
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