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  • #16
    Rufus, do you have any useful info on the situation across the border?

    There's a mess of conflicting reports. The US has told the Turks to stay out, the US has told the Turks to go in, they're already there, they're going in, they were invited in by the Kurds, the Kurds will fight them if they go in...

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    • #17
      Rufus, is it not you duty to lead us in a rousing rendition of
      "We're going to war"
      complete with dancers and chorus line
      Gaius Mucius Scaevola Sinistra
      Japher: "crap, did I just post in this thread?"
      "Bloody hell, Lefty.....number one in my list of persons I have no intention of annoying, ever." Bugs ****ing Bunny
      From a 6th grader who readily adpated to internet culture: "Pay attention now, because your opinions suck"

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly I wish I could just take a couple of weeks off, as Ozz suggests, but as a professor there's really no way to do that.
        I worked on the railroad, and one thing i learned.

        Nobody got killed and nobody got hurt, anything else is
        really unimportant, cause it's replaceable.

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        • #19
          Rufus, do you have any idea why the Turkish military is moving into northern Iraq? How is that story being reported in Turkey?

          Are they there to grab land, or the northern oil fields, or to persecute Kurds, or what?
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          • #20
            Well, I don't think your odds are worse than war correspondents, and they don't get killed that often. Then again, it is your life.
            (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
            (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
            (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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            • #21
              You might want to read this article:

              Turkey vs USA

              It's looking like Turkey might be planning on taking advantage of the situation in order to strengthen their hand. It's possible that they may soon be at odds with the US in a big way.

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              • #22
                Thanks for the article, Willem.

                Sorry, all, it's not at all clear here what the situation is at the border. I'll post if and when I learn something.
                "I have as much authority as the pope. I just don't have as many people who believe it." — George Carlin

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                • #23
                  How badly are anti-American riots in Ankara? Perhaps that might help make a decision?
                  “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                  - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                  • #24
                    Yes, come to Greece, we need the tourism, but don't bother to visit your embassy.

                    God, it's the most hated place in the country. If I were superstitious, I would bet it is haunted.

                    IMO, you have nothing to fear. Neither people in Israel have anything to fear. In Kuwait, there is a 1:1.000.000 chance to be hit by a missile, so I wouldn't worry either.
                    "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
                    George Orwell

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                    • #25
                      Is the american embassy up in flames yet? -

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly
                        Thanks for the article, Willem.

                        Sorry, all, it's not at all clear here what the situation is at the border. I'll post if and when I learn something.
                        I've just heard on the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation that Turkey will disregard US desires and send troops into N. Iraq. It's looking like there might be a showdown between them, which is probably why they're advising you to leave. Apparently the army is not happy with the current prime minister and are flexing their muscles again.

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                        • #27
                          Hmm... I'd rather expect Washington to sell out the Kurds again rather than risk a conflict with Turkey...
                          “Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)

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                          • #28
                            Rufus,
                            I don't think you have anything to be afraid of from Iraq.
                            Of course it's an opinion you'd say, but really, nothing at all.

                            still
                            50.000 turks and 80.000 kurds are now facing eachother armed in the border, but even if the **** hits the fan, it wouldn't affect you, and even if you became fed up with the tension there would still be ample time to leave.


                            There's another matter though that copuld be of concern and worry but it's up to you to judge.

                            How strong is anti-americanism in Turkey now?

                            In Greece is great as always but noone is going to smack down any Americans walking the street.

                            How about Turkey?


                            My guess (just visited the City ) is the people are more or less the same.
                            They won't take it out on you or your family.

                            Just a point: If your kids are going to a school with turkish kids they might hear lots of things but not be agressed IMO. Worse that could happen is they become anti-americans or just see thinsgs from a different prespective.



                            Just my 2 cents

                            Good luck in everything

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                            • #29
                              Hello, paik! Katevikes sta syllalitiria?
                              "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
                              George Orwell

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                              • #30
                                80.000 kurds
                                You sure about that? last time I checked they had about 5.500 lightly armed militia.
                                "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
                                George Orwell

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