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    The war has started
    By Robert Fox, Defence Correspondent and David Taylor, Evening Standard

    British and American troops were involved in fierce fighting near Iraq's
    main port today as the war to topple Saddam Hussein began.

    The firefight broke out near Basra as men of the Special Boat Service
    targeted the strategically vital city and the oilfields in southern Iraq.

    At the same time allied troops were flooding into the demilitarised zone on
    the Iraqi border with Kuwait 40 miles away to take up positions for an
    all-out invasion.

    Cruise missiles were also loaded onto B52 bombers at RAF Fairford in
    Gloucestershire, a clear sign that the bombardment of Baghdad could be only
    hours away.

    British troops taking up "forward battle positions" were ordered to switch
    off satellite phones and allied warplanes bombed targets in Iraq after
    coming under fire in the no-fly zone.

    By lunchtime, allied forces were in position to strike from the moment the
    48-hour deadline set by President Bush for Saddam to quit Iraq expires at
    1am British time tomorrow. But the White House had refused to rule out a
    strike before that.

    The fighting reported at Basra was believed to involve British special
    forces and US marines in an operation to prepare landing sites for
    amphibious craft during an invasion.

    Other special units were deep inside Iraq on secret operations to prepare
    landing strips in the desert for airborne troops.

    Basra, Iraq's only seaport, lies on the Shatt al Arab waterway where the
    Tigris and the Euphrates open into the northern Gulf.

    Surrounded by treacherous sandbanks and marshes it is difficult to approach
    from the sea.

    Artillery, infantry and the tanks of the 7th Armoured Brigade had already
    moved into Forming Up Positions, and some were already on the start line.

    An attack could target Basra and proceed up alongside the Euphrates towards
    the strategic cities of Nasariya, Najaf and Karbala.

    Tony Blair said he believed all MPs, irrespective of their views on the war,
    now wished British troops well.

    "I know everyone in this House wishes our Armed Forces well," he said in the
    Commons.

    A sandstorm whipped across northern Kuwait as the pace of preparations
    suddenly quickened Kuwaiti security sources disclosed that allied troops
    move into the demilitarised zone, which straddles the Iraq-Kuwait border, at
    around 11am local time, 8am UK time.

    The source, working in the Umm Qasr area in the east of the zone, said:
    "American convoys are still driving towards Umm Qasr."

    A US military spokesman said he could not confirm or deny that troops were
    inside the zone.

    A British Army spokesman said only that soldiers had taken up " forward
    battle positions".

    At Fairford, 14 giant American B52 bombers which will lead the fight against
    Saddam were loaded up with cruise missiles this morning.

    The first flight of B52s were expected to take off two hours before sunset
    to give them enough flying time to identify their targets and drop their
    first devastating payload before heading for home.

    The missiles were driven to the aircraft in five articulated lorries
    escorted by police at 10.30am.

    Troops meticulously loaded the weapons - each costing around £1million -
    into the bomb bays by forklift truck.

    With an estimated flight time of only six hours to Iraq the bombers are
    expected to play a huge part in the initial air bombardment. A single B52
    can deliver a payload of more than 70,000lb at a range of 8,800 miles
    without being refuelled. They are likely to take up positions over the
    Mediterranean or the Red Sea to unleash cruise missiles or satelliteguided
    smart bombs. RAF Tornados, Harriers and Jaguars are also likely to be
    involved in the opening 48-hour offensive.

    The Tornados will be given the specific task of taking out air defences and
    barracks round small missile batteries and air strips in the Iraqi desert.

    This will enable the enemy positions to be quickly seized by airborne forces
    and turned into bases for the advancing allied armies.

    The Harrier force of up to 20 planes has the job of supporting special
    forces, the SAS and Special Boat Service and American Rangers in the hunt
    for Scud missile sites and any artillery shells with chemical warheads.
    Intelligence suggests Saddam has given his generals personal authority to
    unleash the deadly weapons as a last desperate measure to hold the Allies
    off from attacking Baghdad.

    The mainstay of the bombing attack will be the 750 American and British
    fighter bombers from Gulf bases and the six American aircraft carriers now
    at battle stations in the Mediterranean and the Arabian Sea.

    The aircraft, including RAF Tornados and Harriers, F16s, F15s and F18
    Hornets will work on a "taxi rank" basis, forming ranks in the air before
    being sent in on targets. Along with the B52s from Fairford, other longrange
    bombers include the almost mythical B2 Spirit bat-wing supersonic aircraft
    which will fly from bases on Diego Garcia. Also spearheading the attack will
    be B1B Lancer and F117 Stealth bombers.

    Action began in the air today as warplanes from the USS Abraham Lincoln
    bombed Iraqi positions after coalition aircraft - including two RAF Harrier
    jets - were fired on by Iraqi forces.

    "There were, yesterday, four firings against our aircraft flying in the
    southern no-fly zone," Rear Admiral John Kelly told reporters on board the
    Lincoln. He said US forces had responded by bombing "a series of targets" he
    described as "command and control" positions.
    Keep on Civin'
    RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

  • #2
    And this as well
    (with a special thanks to remorseless at FFZ for providing the links)

    Saddam's troops fire the first shots of the conflict
    By Patrick Cockburn in northern Iraq
    19 March 2003


    Two Iraqi helicopters fired machine guns and rockets into three Kurdish villages on the front line north of Kirkuk yesterday, in the first shots intended to kill in the coming war.

    ''There were two of them, one an attack helicopter and the other normally used for transport, attacking the villages where people herding cattle live," Mohammed Fateh, a local Kurdish military commander, said.

    Kurdish officers believe that the Iraqi helicopter attack on the three impoverished and half-ruined villages of Bashtapa, Girdalanka and Sherawa in the hills south-east of Qush Tappa was a desperate effort by the Iraqi army to raise the morale of its men and prove that its firepower is still to be reckoned with.

    ''Maybe they fear that the Iraqi soldiers want to flee, so they did this to raise their spirits," said General Nasrudin Mustafa, the Kurdish commander for this sector, who had driven up from his headquarters to inspect the front line moments after the strafing took place.

    Many people from the villages, in the no-man's land between the Kurdish and Iraqi army forces, had already fled to the nearby city of Arbil, he said.

    The Iraqi soldiers facing the Kurdish enclave in northern Iraq appear to have recent orders to show they still have teeth. A few days ago they fired mortar shells at tracks used by smugglers near Qush Tappa to bring goods from Kirkuk, 40 miles to the south.

    Local commanders of the peshmerga (Kurdish guerrillas), dressed in their traditional baggy trousers, were tense because the Iraqi army had changed the unit facing them and reinforced it. General Mustafa, a burly man in a black and white turban, whom we had accompanied to the front, calmed them, saying: "The Iraqis have only switched units around because they are afraid their soldiers will establish links with the peshmerga. They have also sent in some more tanks and cannon, but not many of either."

    The Iraqi army is deeply sensitive to what happens on this section of the front line, because of fears that the peshmerga will take advantage of the US air bombardment to recover villages from which they were deported or forced to flee over the past 25 years. Asked if he plans to attack, General Mustafa smiled and said discreetly: "We are waiting for orders from our leadership."

    On the road leading to the front line, which is really a thinly held series of strongpoints, there are many signs of the coming war. Most of the traffic consists of battered pick-up trucks and orange and white taxis, into which families are crammed as they drive to safety in mountain villages. Small boys and sheepdogs are herding flocks from their pastures to places less likely to be caught in the fighting.

    In the village of Khalaq Yassin Agha on another part of the front, overlooked by hills held by the Iraqi army, a young man called Nawzad Aziz said: "All the people here have gone. But every family has left one man behind to look after their house."

    On the crest of the hill, Iraqi soldiers had just positioned a heavy machine-gun and dug some trenches, but local leaders were surprisingly sanguine. Chato Ramazan, whose headquarters is an old Iraqi army fort of medieval appearance, agreed that most of the people in the village were afraid. "But I don't think the army here will fight," he said. "I think that for the first few hours of the war they might fire at us, but then they will give up." For the moment, however, the government is keeping a tight grip.

    As war gets closer, a mass exodus is under way from Arbil, the largest Kurdish city, with a population of 900,000. "All my relatives and friends have left because they are frightened of an attack by poison gas," Assur, a moneychanger, said nervously. "I am going soon myself."

    Many of the shops are shut, and shopkeepers are removing valuable stock such as carpets to their homes. Others have bought large quantities of plastic sheeting to put around doors and windows to keep out the gas. They are also storing drinking water at home, in case it becomes contaminated. One former peshmerga said he was hurrying to buy a gun in the local market before that closed as well.
    Keep on Civin'
    RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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    • #3
      Long time member @ Apolyton
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      • #4
        Looks like they took the first story off the site
        What?

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        • #5
          Here we go!
          Lets hope for the best and be prepared for the worst.

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          • #6
            Well Ming, it looks like you may actually have to close one of your own threads if this turns out to be untrue
            "I predict your ignore will rival Ben's" - Ecofarm
            ^ The Poly equivalent of:
            "I hope you can see this 'cause I'm [flipping you off] as hard as I can" - Ignignokt the Mooninite

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            • #7
              Well, none of the news channels as of yet say anything other than airstrikes against missile betteries and atry accross the border.

              I am suspicious about these two stories. I will await the word of larger news orgs, like the AP and reuters.
              If you don't like reality, change it! me
              "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
              "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
              "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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              • #8
                Something must be going down, 'cause I can't get any newsites.
                "Perhaps a new spirit is rising among us. If it is, let us trace its movements and pray that our own inner being may be sensitive to its guidance, for we are deeply in need of a new way beyond the darkness that seems so close around us." --MLK Jr.

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                • #9
                  Toast!

                  I always wanted to do that...
                  What?

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                  • #10
                    It might be true. This would be pulling surprise out of a hat. You woulds expect a couple of leaks under these circumstances. Then again...
                    Long time member @ Apolyton
                    Civilization player since the dawn of time

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                    • #11
                      Does this mean Bush lied about his ultimatum?
                      To us, it is the BEAST.

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                      • #12
                        Nahhh... it sounds like an advance team got caught in a fire fight.
                        Keep on Civin'
                        RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Sava
                          Does this mean Bush lied about his ultimatum?

                          Saddam already rejected it. So, why wait?
                          Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

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                          • #14

                            THE first shots of the war have been fired, killing at least one Iraqi during a suspected operation to mine the waters off Kuwait.
                            May this war end quickly and with little loss of life. And hopefullyit will bring about a better world, particularily for the Iraqi people.
                            "I read a book twice as fast as anybody else. First, I read the beginning, and then I read the ending, and then I start in the middle and read toward whatever end I like best." - Gracie Allen

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                            • #15
                              No. When Saddam refused, that was it...according to the press secratry...what's his name.
                              Long time member @ Apolyton
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