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  • The UN may be stronger in the eyes of world opinion, but in true political terms...it has suffered a crushing blow, as the world's only superpower has acted against Iraq in spite of it.
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    • I think Gangerwolf meant that the UN has the potential to strenghten itself now, in view of the current situation.

      Don't mean to put words in anyone's mouth, please correct me if I'm wrong.

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      • Well once that arrogant cowboy is hopefully voted out the next election then maybe the US might work to rebuilding the UN and the ideal of International Law.

        To be honest I couldn't give a toss who the American president is and what he (a woman president, are you mad! ) say or does, its just a shame the rest of the planet has put up with their crap aswell

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        • I personally feel that with the US clout over the UN and the world, there really is no hope for both.

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          • Wow, 5 consecutive posts by Iraqi posters ! Have fear, Finns !
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            • What the world needs is for the US to be "whupped" by Martains then after a dose of humility they might give up the whole "empire" thing (its been done lads ) and settle down to living that "pursuit of happiness" thing and making more episodes of 24

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              • I think Gangerwolf meant that the UN has the potential to strenghten itself now, in view of the current situation.
                yes.

                and who will bush (hopefully) turn to when the question of rebuilding Iraq and creating a new Iraqi government arises? -> The UN.
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                • Originally posted by DinoDoc

                  No it doesn't.
                  Really?
                  Please tell us more. What else doesn't goes against the UN Charter? Bombardments of independednt countries? Invasion to independent countries? Slaughtering population of independent countries, etc?
                  Go ahead, enlighten us.

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                  • Bombardments of independednt countries? Invasion to independent countries? Slaughtering population of independent countries,


                    Notice how Serb is careful to use the term "independent countries"? We wouldn't want our trolls being used to criticize Russian atrocities in Chechnya, now, would we?
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                    • Originally posted by Serb
                      Really?
                      Please tell us more.
                      I could point you to the specific UNSC resolutions where they put thier seal of approval on the concept if you really want me to.
                      Slaughtering population of independent countries, etc?

                      There's yet to be any signifigant whining about Russia doing such things, so I couldn't really say for sure.
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                      • Originally posted by Spiffor
                        Wow, 5 consecutive posts by Iraqi posters ! Have fear, Finns !

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                        • I said regime overthrow was against the UN Charter. You said:

                          Originally posted by DinoDoc

                          No it doesn't.
                          I suggest you re-read the UN charter if you have not done so before affirming the contrary.

                          Chapter I Article 2 Paragraph 7

                          Nothing contained in the present Charter shall authorize the United Nations to intervene in matters which are essentially within the domestic jurisdiction of any state or shall require the Members to submit such matters to settlement under the present Charter; but this principle shall not prejudice the application of enforcement measures under Chapter Vll.

                          Chapter VII refers to the Security Council giving authorization of military force, which it hasn't. Hence it is illegal.

                          Also,

                          The Declaration of Principles of International Law, a UN document ratified in 1970 also states:

                          No state shall organise, assist, foment, finance, incite or tolerate subversive, terrorist or armed activities directed towards the violent overthrow of the regime of another state, or interfere in civil strife in another state

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                          • Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
                            Bombardments of independednt countries? Invasion to independent countries? Slaughtering population of independent countries,


                            Notice how Serb is careful to use the term "independent countries"? We wouldn't want our trolls being used to criticize Russian atrocities in Chechnya, now, would we?
                            How about attrocities they committed after we gave them independence?

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                            • How about attrocities they committed after we gave them independence?


                              It's clear that the Russians are the evil agressors. The Chechens are just freedom fighters responding to Russia's unjustified and immoral aggression.
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                              • No offense but compared to the atrocities Russians commited during the 2 chechen wars, they pale in comparison.

                                Don't use the terrorist thread as an excuse for your own imperialist ambitions, my fellow Russians, since that makes you people no better than the US.
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