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  • #151
    Originally posted by Asher
    This is another example against most philosophy debates.

    Half the time the philosophers use weird non-standard definitions and entire debates are born over it.
    Ya, it gives me a headache.

    Sorry guys I am not threadjacking just putting a little aside in here.
    We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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    • #152
      Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
      If so, you bring the discussion to a completely different level. Then what is out there in lieu of objective reality?


      Ah, a matter after my own heart .

      Since there is no objective reality everything is simply a subjective reality, individualized to each mind. It probably isn't the same reality to other minds (if they truly exist at all).
      So your philosophical credo is solipsism, Imran?
      Freedom is just unawareness of being manipulated.

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      • #153
        If so, you bring the discussion to a completely different level. Then what is out there in lieu of objective reality?
        A subjective reality, of course. [Assuming non-contradiction,] there is no absolute truth.
        "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
        -Bokonon

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        • #154
          I like that guy that spend his whole life in a bathtub.

          I should do that, me and Nicole Neuman travelling around in an mf'ing jacuzzi. That's what I'm talking about.
          We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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          • #155
            Originally posted by Ramo


            A subjective reality, of course. [Assuming non-contradiction,] there is no absolute truth.
            Is this subjective reality different from human to human?
            Freedom is just unawareness of being manipulated.

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            • #156
              I go by how things are defined


              You've obviously never been in a capitalism vs. communism debate where the main points in the debate center on the REAL meaning of 'liberty' and 'freedom'.

              So your philosophical credo is solipsism, Imran?


              Not quite . Though sometimes I shift there. I'm much more Nietzchian in outlook.
              “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
              - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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              • #157
                I don't do capitalism vs communism debates, because they're incredibly stupid.

                Like this one.

                I made the mistake of getting sucked into it -- I forgot how terrible it is to argue with the social sciences where the definitions of things change at the convenience of a position.
                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                • #158
                  You gotta get a jacuzzi like me player.
                  We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                  • #159
                    Is this subjective reality different from human to human?
                    Sure. There's no reason why it can't be.
                    "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                    -Bokonon

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                    • #160
                      Originally posted by Ted Striker
                      You gotta get a jacuzzi like me player.
                      Oh I have one, it's just that it's always full with my *****es, ya know.
                      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                      Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                      • #161
                        Man, don't say that too loud Infatplayeration might here it and get mad you are being a bigger player than he is.

                        I want to get Agent Reyes in this Jacuzzi.
                        We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                        • #162
                          Oops sorry guys back on topic, I'll be in the mf'ing hottub.
                          We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                          • #163
                            Originally posted by Ramo
                            Sure. There's no reason why it can't be.
                            Very well. Then you are a solipsist. Congrats.
                            Freedom is just unawareness of being manipulated.

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                            • #164
                              Oh I have one, it's just that it's always full with my *****es, ya know.
                              Sure. Pimping ain't easy...
                              "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                              -Bokonon

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                              • #165
                                Very well. Then you are a solipsist. Congrats.
                                Yep.
                                "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                                -Bokonon

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