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  • #31
    In order to balance out all the Amerindian team names I propose that the Atlanta Braves take the name of the former minor league team the Atlanta Crackers. And I bet the whites down here wouldn't mind either .
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    • #32
      Imran. You're walking on a thin line.

      And Timex
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      • #33
        Fine. My coronation is complete.
        Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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        He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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        • #34
          so does that mean if all the gays died off i could call somebody a *** without fear of someone butting into my business?

          Only if when all the women die off you can call someone a "*****" without fear of someone butting into your business.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by UberKruX


            a term is only pejorative if the person is offended by it.

            the world should grow the f*ck up and stop being so deeply offended by words.
            Yes, and let's scrap those self-evidently redundant libel and slander laws....

            How did Shakespeare put it?

            "Who steals my purse steals trash; ’t is something, nothing;
            ’T was mine, ’t is his, and has been slave to thousands;
            But he that filches from me my good name
            Robs me of that which not enriches him
            And makes me poor indeed."

            from Othello.

            Are you white by any chance, UberKrux?
            Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

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            • #36
              The whole thing is lefty political correctness run a muck. If someone wants to name their team the Fighting Irish, the Spatans, the Highlanders, or (gasp!!!) the Braves then they should be allowed and the white whiners (for almost all of them are rich white lefties from the burbs) should just shut up and let them.
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              • #37
                So the fact that almost all of the people opposing the name changes are white and the people behind removing them are Indians is just an inconvenient fact for you, huh? In almost every single case where someone has been protesting the name of a sports team, it was started and led by Indians. If some white people support them, that's a good thing.

                The Fighting Irish were so named by an Irish school, a school which is a symbol of Irish pride. They took an insult and made it a thing of pride. That's their thing. If Indians don't want whites to be portraying them with savage charicatures all over the place, then we should respect that. We've taken everything else, we could at least give them back their pride.
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                • #38
                  only Boris would say Indian is bad.

                  Come on! That is just what they were called by Columbus. Whoops I forgot he was responisble for the deaths of millions of native americans .

                  They were never used in a negative context. Only when they were called Injuns would it be considered negative. or redskins would be considered negative.

                  I think chiefs would be a sign of respect. Same with Braves. We are honouring their bravery. Why can't they see it that way.

                  In any case American Football is very traditionalist. I don't think they will ever force the Redskins to change their name. Eventually it will come to terms. So far not too many people are protesting it. I can't wait until it really gets bloody and dirty . These protestors are a violent bunch. But I am certain the redskins owner will never give in.

                  Although the NFL could force them to. I didn't think of that. I never thought the NFL would cave to such PC'ness. But they caved to Al Sharpton just last years. So who knows.

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                  • #39
                    Yeah, only I would see it as a bad thing, even though the Native Americans are out protesting about.

                    Ya know, the denial that goes on about this is pretty ridiculous. If the very group you think you are "honouring" tells you that it isn't an honor and is, in fact, insulting to them, what will it take for you to get the ****ing hint?
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                      And he dances around like a goon dressed up like a Souix, not an Illini (not that we know how the Illini looked, since the Pottowattami wiped them out at Starved Rock two centuries before whites began settling the area). Yeah, such respect. When the people you charicature tell you you are being insulting, take their word on it instead of telling them that you're being "respectful."
                      If the Illini are all dead (after having been exterminated by their fellow Indians) who is going to be offended? It's the same deal as with the Trojans.
                      John Brown did nothing wrong.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Felch X
                        If the Illini are all dead (after having been exterminated by their fellow Indians) who is going to be offended?
                        Other Indians. If the Fighting Whiteys used Klansman and Nazi stormtroopers as their school mascotts, I'd bet white folks would be more upset than amused.
                        Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                        • #42
                          well I say its an honour to their names, and that's all that is important

                          We can't go through life not offending anyone. This is the problem with liberals. They try to do this.

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                          • #43
                            I'll make a statement her, that's bound to encourage discussion.

                            In the beginning, the KKK was aimed at carpet-bagging Yankees as much as Blacks.
                            It served a purpose, similar to labor unions.
                            Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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                            He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by SlowwHand
                              In the beginning, the KKK was aimed at carpet-bagging Yankees as much as Blacks.
                              It served a purpose, similar to labor unions.
                              It's purpose was terrorism Furthermore, as a carpet-bagger myself, I can't say it makes me like them any more (course I already knew this).

                              Dissident, it's true you can't go through life not offending anyone. On the other hand, you don't have to go out of your way to offend people either.
                              Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                              • #45
                                Of course, if reconstruction had gone as Lincoln intended, none of it would have happened.
                                Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                                "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                                He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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