What did Saddam do?

[GePap]

Yeah, on 60 minutes they had this Iraqi defector, who used to work on Iraq's WMD program, and when askd what he though Iraq had, he was sure Saddam did have some bio/chem agants, but found the notion that Iraq still had a functioning nuclear program was wrong. Yet what does he know? it not like he had gone back into Iraq several times ot meet with Shi'a resistance.

But of course when the US is basing its "evidence" on obviously forged documents, who could we possibly doubt them?

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by GePap
You think the short war will be the only thing that will happen? You don't expecty that after 70 years of repression in a land divided by religious, ethnic and tribal faultlines everyone will shake hands an dmake nice cause the US told them? You don't expect any bouts of revenge, terrorism and all the other things that could happen? Why? And you think all our eneimes in the region will just sit back and do nothing..like they did when we sent troops into Lebanon in 1983?

So the world should cringe in fear of the effects of removing the stopper from the bottle of repression and allow Kim II to create himself adjacent to much of the world's oil supply?

AAMOF, I think the people all around Iraq will sit down like good little people once the US Army is on the ground with several heavy units and assorted support units. Not to mention the unsinkable aircraft carrier the USAF will have to operate off of. I don't think that any of Iraq's neighbours are stupid.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Aside from the Iraqi defectors who confirm it.

The defectors claimed Iraq had tested a bomb pre-Gulf War. But we don't have any evidence it existed, and many experts feel the claim is far-fetched, as there isn't anything to suggest Iraq had that advanced of a program back then. Remember that Israel took care of Saddam's nuclear capabilities...

These defectors also claimed Hussein got his uranium through Africa, but we've now learned the evidence cited for that was forged.

[Jaguar]

Originally posted by GePap
Do you guys hate the Leadership of the Hutu militias who slaughtred 1,000,000 directly

Yes.

[GePap]

Yeah, we all know who much the us navy stopped some guy from ramming a truck full of explosives into a Marines barrack in 1983, or how the might of the IDF, with tanks in all towns of the West Bank have so effectively ended Palestinian terrorism....

As for your first comment..Kim II, funny..not. Actions should be based on cost-benefit annalysis, and I for one do not think the costs of action in this case will outweigth the cost..hence, an incorrect action.

[Boris Godunov]

Where have I heard of a ship being called "unsinkable" before? Hmmm...

[notyoueither]

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=27545

No claim of a test. No mention of Africa.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Jaguar Warrior

Yes.

Do you know any of their names? How can one HATE somoen they don't know? seems iffy to me.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by GePap
Yeah, we all know who much the us navy stopped some guy from ramming a truck full of explosives into a Marines barrack in 1983, or how the might of the IDF, with tanks in all towns of the West Bank have so effectively ended Palestinian terrorism....

As for your first comment..Kim II, funny..not. Actions should be based on cost-benefit annalysis, and I for one do not think the costs of action in this case will outweigth the cost..hence, an incorrect action.

So then, maybe you'll stop screaming hysterically at people who disagree with you.

[Boris Godunov]

Ohhh! Worldnetdaily!

Try a real newspaper:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2701-353173,00.html

The nuclear threat should not be exaggerated. Before the launch of the US-led offensive against Iraqi forces in Kuwait in 1991, Saddam was close to developing a bomb. But today, with most of the nuclear infrastructure destroyed, including uranium-enrichment plants, the Iraqi leader is a long way from achieving his ambition to become a nuclear weapons power in the region.

And about the test:

http://www.nationalcenter.org/PRIraq301.html

The documents were ones cited by Bush in his State of the Union address this year as showing Saddam trying to acquire uranium from Africa. It's now been shown they are obvious forgeries, and it's become a rather big embarassment to the CIA and to the administration.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov


And we've got no evidence whatsoever he has ever attempted to do such a thing.

Which is it, Boris?

[GePap]

Originally posted by notyoueither

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=27545

No claim of a test. No mention of Africa.

An article from May 2002, from a "unnamed turkish military source". You know, this is almost as good as that Weekly World News article about how Saddam was going to go into Exile in France and be made Paris' ambassador to Washignton.

Cheney begun talking about Invading Iraq in July 2002, two months after this story. From then on, the US admin. has done everythign it can to try to lonk Saddam with both Al qaeda, a nuclear program, so forth and so on..and in all this time, with all its resources (may i add the British intelligence serivces in this), never, not once, not in Bush's sept 12 speech, not in the state of the union speech in Jan, not in Powell's briefing to the SecCouncil, not in Blair's dossier has anyone ever repeated anyting close to this.

Please tell me then why you find this article, of all articles, even 1/100000th of a percent worthwhile?

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by notyoueither


Which is it, Boris?

Where in any of those sources did it say Saddam was trying to buy nuclear weapons?

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov


Where in any of those sources did it say Saddam was trying to buy nuclear weapons?

Severe case of split hairs.

I say 'buy nukes'

You say he didn't... he tried to develop them himself.

Much has been added to the discourse.

[cia]

Boris, I personally was offered Russian military weaponry cargo shipped on demand to a port of my choice. Nukes, a bit more work but "accidents" do happen. And the Russian aren't exactly going to report the screwup.