Did we score a victory?

[Boris Godunov]

To clarify, I'm not saying Saddam didn't try to have Bush Sr. assassinated, just that there is not a viable case for it, certainly not enough to be used as a justification for war. Frankly, however, it seems like a completely irrational thing to have tried to do. To attempt to assassinate a former U.S. president a year after a ceasefire ended a war that devastated your military would be pretty damned stupid. I think it's unlikely Bush was an intended target of assassination.

Even if it were proven, it's a piss-poor justification, because the incident occured 10 years ago and we responded then (by killing Iraqi civilians, no less). To even bring it up reeks of grasping at straws.

Speaking of desperation, anyone hear the news this morning that the documents Bush cited in his State of the Union Address as showing Saddam trying to acquire uranium for nukes from Africa are obvious, unquestionable forgeries?

[Jac de Molay]

Im intrigued. Have a link on that?

[Boris Godunov]

Certainly, sunshine:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20030307/wl_nm/iraq_un_elbaradei_dc_5

[chequita guevara]

One curious thing that was missing from Blair's six demands: a demand that Hussein must account for his nuclear weapons program. Given the care that went into crafting this compromise, it can't be a mere oversight that Blair forgot to include this. Do the dynamiting duo no longer believe that Hussein has a nuclear weapons program?

[Drake Tungsten]

Drake - good. Go cry. You make no arguments, you regurgitate a few spoon fed propoganada snippits, and tell others that they are wrong with airtight logic like "France is a dumb nation"

Just piss off already. Jesus Christ...

This is rich, Orange. I haven't heard you make anything other than hysterical doomsday pronouncements for the past few weeks...

You keep going down this path and you'll be no better than Frogger...

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
You keep going down this path and you'll be no better than Frogger...

Frogger is one of the most rational, respectable posters on these forums. I know you don't like that he voices different opinions than you, but I don't think you should resort to ad hominems.

[Drake Tungsten]

Frogger is one of the most rational, respectable posters on these forums. I know you don't like that he voices different opinions than you, but I don't think you should resort to ad hominems.

My distaste for Frogger has nothing to do with his opinions and everything to do with his constant refusal to admit he is wrong, even when presented with incontrovertible evidence. I have no respect for intellectually dishonest people...

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
My distaste for Frogger has nothing to do with his opinions and everything to do with his constant refusal to admit he is wrong, even when presented with incontrovertible evidence. I have no respect for intellectually dishonest people...

Even if this were true (I haven't seen it), it would be a case of pot, kettle, black and all that jazz.

[Drake Tungsten]

Boris, you really have no idea what's going on between Frogger and I, so why don't you just mind your own business? I apologize for bringing it back up, as no one needs to hear about this. It's better for all involved if we just let this die...

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
Boris, you really have no idea what's going on between Frogger and I

I imagine it's a stormy love-hate relationship that will culminate in a passionate kiss. But I have a vivid imagination.

And if it's nobody else's business, then don't bring it up to another poster in another forum, because that makes it everyone's business. Problem solved.

[Drake Tungsten]

And if it's nobody else's business, then don't bring it up to another poster in another forum, because that makes it everyone's business.

I already apologized for bringing it back up. My bad...

[DinoDoc]

Wierd thread. I never knew that we had so many people in favor of keeping troops in Saudia Arabia and an indefinite continuation of sanctions.

[Boris Godunov]

Who said anything about keeping troops in SA? I say, pull them out and slap the Sauds with sanctions as well.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
Who said anything about keeping troops in SA?

Where would you move them?

I say, pull them out and slap the Saudis with sanctions as well.

For what reason and how would you propose keeping them from having more leaks than the one we slapped on Cuba or even Iraq?

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Where would you move them?

Home. Maybe Turkey, if they agreed.

For what reason

SA's gross Human Rights violations and their government's support of terrorism. It was good enough for South Africa, and even the initials are the same.

and how would you propose keeping them from having more leaks than the one we slapped on Cuba or even Iraq?

There will always be leaks, but it's about taking a moral stand against an evil regime that doesn't involve partaking in an aggressive war.