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  • #16
    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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    • #17
      Bush on Bush
      Speaking of Erith:

      "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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      • #18
        So when does Bush start selling weapons to Iran?... after all, his hero did.

        More astounding to me than this speech, wich sounds like classic Bush 41 is the commercials for the Institute of Peace, or somehting like that, which had Bush 41 and Carter doing the voic over, and at one point Bush 41 says: "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter". How radical a thing to say given then times, and by Papa Bush.

        What Bush 43 needs it to understand that there are things called "opposing view-points", and that he is not always utterly correct.
        If you don't like reality, change it! me
        "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
        "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
        "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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        • #19
          The Times article is one of the most slanted I have ever read. Bush senior had absloutely no criticism for his son if you read the complete speech he made without the help of Times out of context editing. I will try to find a copy of the complete speech somewhere...

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Guynemer
              Anyone else see this thread title and hope for an entirely different subject?
              Clam fight!
              "I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
              'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger

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              • #22
                Originally stated by George Bush Sr.
                One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter
                Someone influent is actually going against the bigotry, and trying to think about opposing viewpoints ? Bush should be burnt by Rush Limbaugh for being un-American

                More seriously, I'm amazed such a comment could have made it into the media without being harshly criticized by nearly everyone. While it is absolutely true, I thought America wasn't ready at all for such a truth, because of its self confidence of doing the right thing.
                "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
                "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
                "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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                • #23
                  This is a wonderful thing for Bush Sr. to admit, God bless him. It is always inspirational for someone to do what's right in the face of great peril. I find Spiffor's post to be spot-on.
                  http://monkspider.blogspot.com/

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                  • #24
                    Ya know this stuff was a minor part of the reason why Bush I lost. He was percieved as a 'weenie', which basically means he saw opposing viewpoints and made statements like 'one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter'.

                    It ain't like this is something new for him to say.
                    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                    • #25
                      Erm, is it 'weenie' to 'see opposite viewpoints' in your opinion too, or are you describing the American population at large ?
                      It is however a scary thought
                      "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
                      "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
                      "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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                      • #26
                        Well that's how Bush's opponents described him. Clinton, IIRC, hammered Bush on dealing with the Chinese and saying Bush had no backbone to deal with the PRC (and then of course did the same thing Bush did).
                        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                        • #27
                          Bush I lost mainly because of the economic slump...
                          (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                          (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                          (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                            Clinton hammered on saying Bush had no backbone to deal with the PRC

                            Gah, gotta love Clinton for the comic relief
                            "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
                            "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
                            "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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                            • #29
                              BTW, where did this 41 43 business come from?
                              No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                              • #30
                                Pappy Bush is the 41'st Pres., Shrub is 43'rd,
                                "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                                -Bokonon

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