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  • Iran's Nuclear Threat

    Iran will probably be Bushe's next target:

    From TIME magazine:


    Iran's Nuclear Threat
    In
    another worrying development for the Bush administration, Iran moves closer to
    operation of a facility to enrich uranium
     



    Saturday, Mar. 08, 2003
    With war in Iraq looming
    and North Korea defiantly pursuing its own nuclear program, the last thing
    President Bush needs is another nuclear crisis. But that is what he may soon
    face in Iran. On a visit last month to Tehran, International Atomic Energy
    Agency director Mohamed ElBaradei announced he had discovered that Iran was
    constructing a facility to enrich uranium — a key component of advanced nuclear
    weapons — near Natanz. But diplomatic sources tell TIME the plant is much
    further along than previously revealed. The sources say work on the plant is
    "extremely advanced" and involves "hundreds" of gas centrifuges ready to produce
    enriched uranium and "the parts for a thousand others ready to be assembled."

    Iran announced last week that it intends to activate a uranium conversion
    facility near Isfahan (under IAEA safeguards), a step that produces the uranium
    hexafluoride gas used in the enrichment process. Sources tell Time the IAEA has
    concluded that Iran actually introduced uranium hexafluoride gas into some
    centrifuges at an undisclosed location to test their ability to work. That would
    be a blatant violation of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, to which Iran is
    a signatory.

    The IAEA declined to comment. A senior State department official said he
    believed El Baradei was trying to resolve the issue behind the scenes before
    going public. But experts say the new discoveries are very serious and should be
    handled in public. "If Iran were found to have an operating centrifuge, it would
    be a direct violation [of the non-proliferation treaty] and is something that
    would need immediately to be referred to the United Nations Security Council for
    action," says Jon Wolfstahl of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.
    Iran insists that its nuclear program is for peaceful purposes and told
    elBaradei that Tehran intends to bring all of its programs under IAEA
    safeguards. U.S. officials have said repeatedly they believe Iran is pursuing
    nuclear weapons.

    The new discoveries could destabilize a region already dangerously on edge in
    anticipation of war in Iraq. Israel — which destroyed an Iraqi nuclear plant in
    Osirak in a 1981 raid — is deeply alarmed by the developments. "It's a huge
    concern," says one Israeli official. "Iran is a regime that denies Israel's
    right to exist in any borders and is a principal sponsor of Hezbollah. If that
    regime were able to achieve a nuclear potential it would be extremely
    dangerous." Israel will not take the "Osirak option" off the table, the official
    says, but "would prefer that this issue be solved in other ways."

    The revelations come at a particularly bad time for Washington, which is
    locked in a battle to gain U.N. approval for an attack on Iraq and to build
    consensus among its allies for a multilateral approach to the crisis in North
    Korea. Critics of the Administration say Bush's hard public line against the
    so-called "Axis of Evil," combined with the threatened war with Iraq, have acted
    as a spur to both Iran and North Korea to accelerate their nuclear programs. "If
    those countries didn't have much incentive or motivation before, they certainly
    did after the Axis of Evil statement," says one western diplomat familiar with
    the Iranian and North Korean programs. The Administration counters that both
    programs have been underway for many years.



  • #2
    I'm pretty sure of this, sine they have reported al-qaeda activity in Iran. There's nothing surprising there, but they way they have reported it would indicate they're the next target, and they're just making people more comfortable with the idea, and thats why they have reported it.
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    • #3
      I'm sure we will see more of these reports, but for example we will not see terrorists group activity reports in Saudi Arabia, where it sure is high, because it's not in the list.
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      • #4
        Iran will probably be Bushe's next target

        Doubtful.
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        • #5
          They will never be able to afford or justify a war against Iran.
          "When you ride alone, you ride with Bin Ladin"-Bill Maher
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          • #6
            Iran (with the RG's and fundies in charge) is a bigger threat by far than Iraq. The US just doesn't have the capacity to do anything about it.
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            • #7
              I agree with MTG. I think they are bigger threat than Iraq.
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              • #8
                I don't think that Iran is bush's next target. It will trouble the new govt. in Baghdad, post war.

                unless, there is some way they'll make the arab shiites hate the persian shiites.
                urgh.NSFW

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by DuncanK
                  They will never be able to afford or justify a war against Iran.
                  They will - sooner or later. They will find a way.
                  First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.

                  Gandhi

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                  • #10
                    DuncanK, Might be tough, but that's why they're reporting sudden changes in Iran, al-qaeda activity etc. They can start pressuring Irans leaders with this, and since they won't agree with the US fully, co-operating to take the terrorists out and their supporters, it could be enough. There are lots of fundamentalists in Iran (way more than in Iraq), who will not support US demands, what ever they might be. Their leaders might even go with the US, only it seem like they are co-operating, but they don't run the show. It's only matter of time.
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                    • #11
                      There are also a lot of people in Iran who want a more liberal government - I think we will see a coup/revolution not a war
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                      • #12
                        The only way that Bush can sell this war is because of its proximity to 9-11 and the people don't see how much it will cost yet. By the time the war on Iraq is over Americans will see 400b dollar federal deficits. They will also become aware that health care and social security cost will increase and revenues will fall as more baby boomers retire (that time is coming soon). We will never agree to finance another war and we probably couldn't afford it even if we wanted too.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by DuncanK
                          They will never be able to justify a war against Iran.
                          That's not stoping them with Iraq.
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                          • #14
                            Myrddin: most of these people are out of the country for more than 20 years now.
                            urgh.NSFW

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                            • #15
                              I agree here, I think there is as much reason to attack to Iran as there is to Iraq. And I support both actions.
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