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    1. Saturday morning IDF killed 4 Hamas high-ranking leaders. One of them, the leader of the military wing of Hamas in the Gaza strip, which was among the founders of Hamas. He was also considered high-ranking in the political leadership of Hamas. Hamas vowed revenge against Israeli prominent Figures.


    2. Iraq apparently has unmanned aircraft which can spread BC materials and have a range of over 500 kilometers. this is included in the report on iraq, which hans blix handed to the UN, yet for some reason didn't appear in the speech he made. This aircraft can reach Israel as well.


    Hamas says will hit Israeli leaders after topofficial killed


    By Amos Harel and Amira Hass, Haaretz Correspondents, Haaretz Service and Agencies

    Hamas on Saturday vowed to revenge the assassination of four its members in an IAF helicopter missile attack on a car in Gaza City in the hours of the morning. Among the four was Ibrahim al-Makadme, one of the organization's founders and a senior leader of its political wing.

    The car was reduced to charred wreckage. Hundreds of angry Hamas followers poured into the Gaza City hospital where al-Makadme's body was taken.

    The other three killed in the car were reportedly Al-Makadme's body guards. Two of them were identified as Khaled Juma, 32, and Ala Shukri, 30.

    "The assassination of Ibrahim al-Makadme will launch a new stage of war against the Jews," senior Hamas official Abdel-Azziz Rantissi told Reuters. "All Israeli leaders will be open targets for Hamas," he said.

    Thousands of mourners, firing assault rifles into the air and shouting 'God is great!' packed the streets of Gaza City for Makadmeh's funeral on Saturday afternoon. His body was draped in the green flag of Hamas.

    "The Kassam brigades will cut off a 100 heads in return for the death of our martyr. Our words will soon be translated into action," Hamas supporters chanted through loudspeakers.

    "There is a call and an order from Hamas' political leadership to the Kassam brigades to target Israeli leaders," Rantissi told mourners.

    Hamas leaders said the killing was a major loss for the group. "They've crossed the red line," said Ismail Haniyah, a senior Hamas leader of Hamas.

    Also Saturday, Palestinian sources said that a 23-year-old Palestinian was killed and eight others were wounded in an exchange of fire with IDF troops in the northern Gaza Strip town of Beit Lahiya. The sources said that the Palestinians were throwing stones at IDF bulldozers and armored personnel carriers.

    Al-Makadme's killing was the first time in 18 months that Israel has assassinated a senior political figure in Hamas. Israel claims that al-Makadme, 50, was also responsible for the activities of the group's military wing, and that he had ties with senior terrorists such as Salah Shehadeh, whom he recruited to the organization himself.

    Shehadeh, leader and founder of Iz a Din al-Kassam, the Hamas military wing, was killed along with 14 others in a raid on a house in Gaza City in July 2002.

    Al-Makadme was on Israel's wanted list, and had been arrested by the Palestinian Authority police several times before the Intifada broke out in September 2000.

    He was considered to be one of the top five figures in the Hamas leadership. The assassination represents an Israeli decision to target the organization's political echelons, for the first time since the assassinations of Jamal Mansour and Jamal Damuni in the West Bank city of Nablus on August 2001.

    Security sources hinted several days ago that the operation would characterize Israel's future actions in the territories. They said that Wednesday's suicide bombing on a Haifa bus, in which 15 people were killed, had caused Israel to make the decision to target the political leaders of terrorist organizations.

    Israel Radio quoted sources in Jerusalem as saying Saturday that the decision to kill Makadme had been made a long time ago, but was postponed several times in order to avoid hurting innocent civilians.

    The early morning strike left shop windows shattered and cars smoldering. Several people were reportedly injured and one was in critical condition, hospital officials said.

    PA condemns killing
    The killing was condemned by the Palestinian Authority, which called it an attempt to "foil and undermine the work of Palestinian institutions" as it coincided with a meeting of the Palestine Central Committee to discuss the nomination of Abu Mazen as the first PA prime minister.

    "We condemn in the strongest possible terms the new assassination in Gaza and we hold the Israeli government fully responsible for the consequences of this act," Palestinian cabinet minister Saeb Erekat said.

    The IDF had no immediate comment.

    Last week, IDF troops captured Mohammed Taha, 65, a co-founder of the Hamas movement, and his son Ayman, linked to the top Hamas bomb maker.

    The Apache missile strike came just hours after Palestinian gunmen disguised as religious Jews killed two Israelis in a raid on a Jewish settlement near Hebron. A leaflet distributed in the West Bank city claimed responsibility in the name of Hamas, saying it was in "revenge for the massacres of Palestinians."

    The assassination also comes the day after IDF forces took strategic positions around the northern Gaza Strip town of Beit Hanoun and the Jabalya refugee camp in a bid to foil the firing of Qassam rockets into Israel.

    It was unclear how long the operation would last, but if the troops plan to stay indefinitely, then this would signal a major departure in Israel's military policy in the Strip, which in recent weeks has taken the form of raids aimed at Hamas strongholds deep inside Gaza. But in every case until now, the operations have never lasted more than several hours.

    The army said in a statement the operation "was part of an attempt to...prevent the launching of Qassam rockets towards Israeli communities near the northern Gaza Strip."

    "This action is a little different than the actions we have carried out until now," said Colonel Yoel Strick, commander of Israel's northern Gaza brigade. "If we decide it is necessary, we will hold on to this area for the foreseeable future."

    When asked by an Israel Radio reporter if that meant the army was reoccupying part of Gaza, Strick said, "Yes, indeed."


    Iraqi drone 'could drop chemicals on troops'


    From James Bone in New York (London Times)

    A REPORT declassified by the United Nations yesterday contained a hidden bombshell with the revelation that inspectors have recently discovered an undeclared Iraqi drone with a wingspan of 7.45m, suggesting an illegal range that could threaten Iraq’s neighbours with chemical and biological weapons.
    US officials were outraged that Hans Blix, the chief UN weapons inspector, did not inform the Security Council about the drone, or remotely piloted vehicle, in his oral presentation to Foreign Ministers and tried to bury it in a 173-page single-spaced report distributed later in the day. The omission raised serious questions about Dr Blix’s objectivity.

    “Recent inspections have also revealed the existence of a drone with a wingspan of 7.45m that has not been declared by Iraq,” the report said. “Officials at the inspection site stated that the drone had been test-flown. Further investigation is required to establish the actual specifications and capabilities of these RPV drones . . . (they) are restricted by the same UN rules as missiles, which limit their range to 150km (92.6 miles).

    Colin Powell, the US Secretary of State, told the Security Council in February that Washington had evidence that Iraq had test-flown a drone in a race-track pattern for 500km non-stop.

    In another section of the declassified report, the inspectors give warning that Iraq still has spraying devices and drop tanks that could be used in dispersing chemical and biological agents from aircraft. “A large number of drop tanks of various types, both imported and locally manufactured, are available and could be modified,” it says.

    The paper, obtained by The Times, details the possible chemical and biological arsenal that British and US Forces could face in an invasion of Iraq. The paper suggests that Iraq has huge stockpiles of anthrax, may be developing long-range missiles and could possess chemical and biological R400 aerial bombs and Scud missiles, and even smallpox.

    Jack Straw, the Foreign Secretary, told his fellow Security Council Foreign Ministers that the document was a“chilling read”.

    General Powell resorted to reading passages from the paper out loud in the Council chamber. He pointed out that it chronicled nearly 30 times when Iraq had failed to provide credible evidence to substantiate its claims, and 17 instances when inspectors uncovered evidence that contradicted those claims. But his draft copy, dating from a meeting of the inspectors’ advisory board last week, did not contain the crucial passage about the new drone.

    The decision by Dr Blix to declassify the internal report marks the first time the UN has made public its suspicions about Iraq’s banned weapons programmes, rather than what it has been able to actually confirm. “Unmovic has credible information that the total quantity of biological warfare agent in bombs, warheads and in bulk at the time of the Gulf War was 7,000 litres more than declared by Iraq. This additional agent was most likely all anthrax,” it says.

    The report says there is “credible information” indicating that 21,000 litres of biological warfare agent, including some 10,000 litres of anthrax, was stored in bulk at locations around the country during the war and was never destroyed.

    The paper, a collection of 29 “clusters” of questions for Iraq, offers some reassurance about Iraq’s missing botulinum toxin, which Unmovic believed is “unlikely to retain much, if any, of its potency” if it has been stockpiled since 1991.

  • #2
    The problem with fighting unmanned drones is that you can't very well see them on radar. So air superiority doesn't help much there.
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    • #3
      A drone used to drop chemical or biological weapons is a drone wasted.

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      • #4
        You guys be safe there ok? THis doesn't need to get any more personal to me than it already is
        In da butt.
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        • #5
          Baghdad has refused since December 1998 to allow United Nations inspectors into Iraq as required by Security Council Resolution 687. In spite of ongoing UN efforts to establish a follow-on inspection regime comprising the UN Monitoring, Verification, and Inspection Commission (UNMOVIC) and the IAEA’s Iraq Action Team, no UN inspections occurred during this reporting period. Moreover, the automated video monitoring systemsinstalled by the UN at known and suspect WMD facilities in Iraq are still not operating. Having lost this on-the-ground access, it is more difficult for the UN or the US to accurately assess the current state of Iraq’s WMD programs.

          Given Iraq’s past behavior, it is likely that Baghdad has used the intervening period to reconstitute prohibited programs. We assess that since the suspension of UN inspections in December of 1998, Baghdad has had the capability to reinitiate its CW programs within a few weeks to months. Iraq’s failure to submit an accurate Full, Final, and Complete Disclosure (FFCD) in either 1995 or 1997, coupled with its extensive concealment efforts, suggest that the BW program hascontinued. Without an inspection-monitoring program, however, it is more difficult to determine the current status of these programs.

          Since the Gulf war, Iraq has rebuilt key portions of its chemical production infrastructure for industrial and commercial use, as well as its missile production facilities. Iraq has attempted to purchase numerous dual-use items for, or under the guise of, legitimate civilian use. This equipment—in principle subject to UN scrutiny—also could be diverted for WMD purposes. Since the suspension of UN inspections in December 1998, the risk of diversion has increased. After Desert Fox, Baghdad again instituted a reconstruction effort on those facilities destroyed by the US bombing, including several critical missile production complexes and former dual-use CW production facilities. In addition, Iraq appears to be installing or repairing dual-use equipment at CW-related facilities. Some of these facilities could be converted fairly quickly for production of CW agents.

          UNSCOM reported to the Security Council in December 1998 that Iraq also continued to withhold information related to its CW program. For example, Baghdad seized from UNSCOM inspectors an Iraqi Air Force document discovered by UNSCOM that indicated that Iraq had not consumed as many CW munitions during the Iran-Iraq war in the 1980s as had been declared by Baghdad. This discrepancy indicates that Iraq may have hidden an additional 6,000 CW munitions.

          In 1995, Iraq admitted to having an offensive BW program and submitted the first in a series of FFCDs that were supposed to have revealed the full scope of its BW program. According to UNSCOM, these disclosures are incomplete and filled with inaccuracies. Since the full scope and nature of Iraq’s BW program was not verified, UNSCOM has assessed that Iraq maintains a knowledge base and industrial infrastructure that could be used to produce quickly a large amount of BW agents at any time. Iraq also has continued dual-use research that could improve BW agent R&D capabilities. With the absence of a monitoring regime and Iraq’s growing industrial self-sufficiency, we remain concerned that Iraq may again be producing biological warfare agents.

          Iraq has worked on its L-29 unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) program, which involves converting L-29 jet trainer aircraft originally acquired from Eastern Europe. In the past, Iraq has conducted flights of the L-29, possibly to test system improvements or to train new pilots. These refurbished trainer aircraft are believed to have been modified for delivery of chemical or, more likely, biological warfare agents.

          We believe that Iraq has probably continued at least low-level theoretical R&D associated with its nuclear program. A sufficient source of fissile material remains Iraq’s most significant obstacle to being able to produce a nuclear weapon. Although we were already concerned about a reconstituted nuclear weapons program, our concerns increased in September 2000 when Saddam publicly exhorted his "Nuclear Mujahidin" to "defeat the enemy." The Intelligence Community remains concerned that Baghdad may be attempting to acquire materials that could aid in reconstituting its nuclear weapons program.

          Iraq continues to pursue development of SRBM systems that are not prohibited by the United Nations and may be expanding to longer-range systems. Pursuit of UN-permitted missiles continues to allow Baghdad to develop technological improvements and infrastructure that could be applied to a longer-range missile program. We believe that development of the liquid-propellant Al-Samoud SRBM probably is maturing and that a low-level operational capability could be achieved in the near term — which is further suggested by the appearance of four Al Samoud transporter-erector-launchers (TELs) with airframes at the 31 December 2000 Al Aqsa parade. The solid-propellant missile development program may now be receiving a higher priority, and development of the Ababil-100 SRBM – two such airframes and TELs were paraded on 31 December—and possibly longer range systems may be moving ahead rapidly. If economic sanctions against Iraq were lifted, Baghdad probably would increase its attempts to acquire missile-related items from foreign sources, regardless of any future UN monitoring and continuing restrictions on long-range ballistic missile programs. Iraq probably retains a small, covert force of Scud-type missiles.

          Iraq’s ACW acquisitions remain low due to the generally successful enforcement of the UN arms embargo. Baghdad has acquired smaller arms and components for larger arms, such as spare parts for aircraft and air defense systems, primarily over porous land borders via a thriving gray arms market. Iraq also acquires some dual-use and production items through the Oil For Food program. Iraq continues to aggressively seek ACW equipment and technology.


          hi ,

          well the arrow can stop those little drones with ease , ....

          have a nice day
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          • #6
            Armed, Unmanned, and Dangerous
            Unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) have recently attracted a flurry of attention in Congress and the defense media - both of which are increasingly attuned to potential terrorist threats following September 11. "UAV" refers to any unmanned, non-rocket-propelled aircraft that flies within the atmosphere, that is, anything from a propeller-driven drone to a cruise missile. The major fear of U.S. policymakers is that terrorists or rogue states might use UAVs as a delivery system for weapons of mass destruction (WMD). Iraq, for example, is converting L-29 trainers into WMD-capable UAVs, according to Senate testimony by Vann Van Diepen, Acting Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Nonproliferation.

            Managing this risk will not be easy. Since February, three meetings of the Senate Government Affairs Committee have stressed that low costs and the wide variety of acquisition paths open to purchasers (most UAV technology has legitimate civilian and commercial applications) make UAVs an attractive weapon for terrorists and hostile states.

            One way to deal with the threat is through the Missile Technology Control Regime (MTCR), a set of voluntary multilateral export control guidelines designed to prevent the proliferation of missiles that can carry WMD. But the expandable design of most UAVs combined with the commercial availability of much of their technology mean that an MTCR-compliant UAV could easily be upgraded using civilian technologies to make it capable of WMD delivery. What's more, the GAO reported in October 2001(GAO-02-120) that many MTCR items are subject to "unclear jurisdiction" in the U.S. arms export control system, meaning they could easily fall through the system's cracks.

            Of course, the MTCR cannot be effective if its participants choose to ignore it. This spring, the Bush administration quietly developed a new UAV export policy that would make it easier to sell UAVs capable of delivering WMD. In accordance with MTCR rules, UAVs that fall under Category I of the MTCR (capable of carrying 500 kilograms at least 300 kilometers) had been subject to an unconditional strong presumption of denial, but under the new policy they will be granted a case-by-case review. Why the President would eschew a growing consensus of alarmed experts is unclear. Could he be responding to pressure from an industry increasingly keen on exporting UAVs for commercial and defense purposes? In any case, it is certain that dealing with the threat of UAV proliferation will require both reform of the MTCR's ability to deal with dual-use technologies like UAVs and a stricter adherence by the U.S. and other members to the spirit as well as the letter of the MTCR.
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            • #7
              Thanks for the info panag.

              Those L-29s would be easy to stop.

              It's the smaller ones I am concerned with. Though, the smaller ones can't carry that much payload.
              We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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              • #8
                hi ,

                here is a pic of a small drone as found by inspectors a couple weeks ago and used in the Collin Powell briefing to the UN

                have a nive day
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                • #9
                  I didn't even think about Iraq having UAVs of its own. That can't be a good thing...
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                  • #10
                    L-29
                    L-29 - Delfin
                    L-29 - Iraq
                    Facilities
                    Al Sahra Airfield
                    References
                    Iraq’s Weapons of Mass Destruction: The Assessment of the British Government" September 24, 2002
                    STATUS OF VERIFICATION OF IRAQ'S BIOLOGICAL WARFARE PROGRAMME UNSCOM - Report to the Security Council - 25 January 1999
                    "Iraqi L-29s Could Easily Be Weapons, Aviation Experts Say" Aerospace Daily September 27, 2002



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                    A number of stories have surfaced about Iraq's development of unmanned aircraft to deliver chemical and biological weapons. U.S. intelligence officials said reports about MiG-21s and MiG-23s being adapted for the role are "bogus," but work on L-29 trainers, other light aircraft and UAVs is of concern.

                    The Czech firm Aero Vodochody sold 78 L-29 and 90 L-39 trainer aircraft to Iraq between the late 1960s and early 1980s. Given the difficulty in acquiring spare parts for these aircraft, by some estimates only a quarter of the L-29 aircraft which were sold to Iraq were still in service as of 2002.

                    In 1990, Saddam ordered the production of unmanned aircraft -- Iraq's "anthrax airforce" -- to spray chemical and biological agents on civilians and ground troops that he might wish to attack. Early efforts to convert combat aircraft were not successful, but spraying equipment was successfully tested using an anthrax-like substance.

                    In September 1995, Iraq declared the existence of two projects concerning the use of aircraft drop tanks to disseminate BW agents. One employed a Mirage F-1 aircraft, the other a MIG-21. The drop-tank project appears to have been pursued with the utmost vigor by Iraq. It seems to have been the only BW weapon system that continued in development after the start of the Gulf war. The second aerial BW delivery system, using pilotless aircraft, was to produce a MIG-21 aircraft that could take off and fly on a preset flight path without a pilot on board. The plane would carry a drop-tank containing BW agent. After a preset time the valves on the tank would open and disseminate the agent. The aircraft would continue to fly until it ran out of fuel. There was no clear evidence of the termination of the development of pilotless aircraft for BW dispersal. It is known that such work continues, although for a different stated purpose (ie, targets for anti-aircraft artillery). [UNSCOM]

                    An aerosol generator for the dispersal of biological warfare agents or toxins was developed by the Technical Research Center at Salman Pak by modification of helicopter-borne commercial chemical insecticide disseminators. These modified aerosol generators were assessed as suitable for the dissemination of BW agents from helicopters or slow moving fixed-wing aircraft and are referred to as Zubaidy devices. UNSCOM had evidence of a parallel development by the Technical Research Center of a similar device, probably for delivery by drones. Iraq officially denied all knowledge about this second device, but this denial is inconsistent with indications from interviews. It is unknown whether development of this second device continued to deployment, but the possibility exists that it did and that such a weapon system still exists in Iraq. [UNSCOM]

                    In 1995, Saddam launched a new program using a converted L-29 training aircraft -- the "drones of death". The first flights were started in 1997 and the testing program was continuing in late 1998. This aircraft was fitted with two under-wing weapon stores capable of carrying 300 litres of anthrax or other nerve agents. If this were to be sprayed over a built-up area such as Kuwait City, it could kill millions of people. The main problem facing the remote-controlled planes would be coping with mountainous terrain.

                    On 06 January 1999, Jane's Defense Weekly cited the UK Ministry of Defence as reporting that Iraq was converting some of its Czech-built L-29 jet trainers at the Tallil airbase into unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV) for use in delivering chemical or biological warfare agents. The "anthrax air force" at the Al Sahra Airfield was targeted by US/UK forces during Operation Desert Fox in December 1998.

                    According to the British dossier Iraq’s Weapons of Mass Destruction released in September 2002, information derived from intelligence were pointing to Iraq having attempted to modify the L-29 jet trainer to allow it to be used as an Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (UAV) potentially capable of delivering chemical and biological agents over a large area. A CIA analysis cited the L-29 program, noting that these refurbished trainer aircraft are believed to have been modified for delivery of chemical or, more likely, biological warfare agents.

                    Some US officials minimize the danger the L-29s [and the newer unmanned vehicles] might pose, arguing that they are slow, low-flying and could be easily spotted and shot down. But other officials are concerned that they could be used in a terrorist-like attack against an unsuspecting civilian population. The Bush administration has placed more emphasis the threat of smaller unmanned vehicles which could be controlled from greater distances [if Baghdad were to gain access to sophisticated software and communications links].


                    Specifications
                    Max. speed - at 5,000 m 655 km/h
                    - at sea level 650 km/h
                    Range + 800 km
                    Service ceiling 11 000 m
                    Engine M-701 Motorlet
                    Thrust 8,72 kN
                    Payload 200 kg
                    Max. takeoff weight 3586 kg
                    Wingspan (including fuel tanks) 10,29 m
                    Length 10,81 m
                    Height 3,13 m
                    Wing area 19,8 m2
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                    • #11
                      And Saddam must know our response will be nuclear...

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                      • #12
                        Are nuclear weapons efficient against Iraq or you would just nuke him for the moral effect. Couldn´t USA conduct conventional bombings in Iraq as devastating as a nuclear one? One thing is to nuke URSS, which is huge and has an army that could threat the USA. But I bet that the US must have one bomb stockpiled for every squareinch of Iraq.

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                        • #13
                          Israel enters high risk time


                          Have we ever "left" it?
                          "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.

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                          • #14
                            intelligence chief: war will start in one week.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by DarthVeda
                              And Saddam must know our response will be nuclear...
                              hi ,

                              , ..... nah , no-one in his right mind would do that , ..... maybe they would use a small nuke on a tomahawk or so in the worst case scenario , .....

                              but one think they are going to be using is Fual - Air Bombs , this type of weapon shall not only destroy the bunker or building its used against but also it shall destroy the chemical or biological stuff inside the targets , .....

                              have a nice day
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