North Korean Tourism -- A Trip To Kimland

[Odd]

Did I hear nuclear weapons? No, I didn´t. No matter how bad things are at NK, transforming it into a Chernobyl/Somalia wasteland wouldn´t help. Not to mention a nuke faling down on Tokyo or Seul.

China is a real mean bad evil empire for giving support to a dictatorship. Thanks God no Western power has ever done that.

The most impressive thing on his travel is that the whole stuff was strictly planned to don´t show anything unpleasant. I think that the worst thing is what´s not shown there. And all that brainwashing only works as long as it´s useful for keeping those people alive. I can´t remember of an official brainwashing that have outlived it´s regime.

[ranskaldan]

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[Sprayber]

Originally posted by ranskaldan




That was 50 years ago, much more distant than American carpet-bombing of Vietnam.

(And besides... go count exactly how many dictatorships the US has supported in the last 50 years. You'll be surprised.)

If China is really so nasty, why is China the second largest importer of South Korean goods (after the US)?

Go to Beijing today... you'll find whole neighbourhoods of South Koreans. The skyline of Shanghai is decorated with South Korean businesses.

Geez.

I think he was being sarcastic. I could be wrong though.

[ranskaldan]

I think you're right.

[DanS]

if it reunifies, it'll be with nkorea's collapse. and skorea will find itself struggling to deal with 22 million new citizens, trying to get them basic necessities, etc., etc., etc.

Q^3: I agree. Given this, wouldn't it be good policy for SK to prepare for this and try to control the process as much as possible?

But instead, The Washington Post reports that Roh's representatives told the administration that they would rather have a nuclear NK than a collapsed NK. The administration was said to have been "floored".

Anyway, this page was very interesting.

[mindseye]

Great narrative, thanks for the link!

[Sava]

No comments on Ghett0'Delta?

[Ned]

Kim and Saddam are both socialists, at least according to them. You say they are not socialists, but Stalinists. Somehow, this makes them not socialist?

[SirTweek]

Originally posted by Odd
China is a real mean bad evil empire for giving support to a dictatorship. Thanks God no Western power has ever done that.

This is such an inane statement I'm just lost for words.

[SirTweek]

Originally posted by Ned
Kim and Saddam are both socialists, at least according to them. You say they are not socialists, but Stalinists. Somehow, this makes them not socialist?

Yeah Kim also says that North Korea is a democracy. Does this make it true?

[RGBVideo]

Kim and Saddam are both socialists, at least according to them. You say they are not socialists, but Stalinists. Somehow, this makes them not socialist?

We're getting off-topic here, but...
I would say that Saddam is a socialist. Lately, he's been using lot's of pro-Islam rhetorics,
but his actions in the past seem to indicate socialism.

[Ned]

SirTweak, of course they are democracies. The only problem as with all socialist countries, there is only one party on the ballot.

[Ned]

Getting back on topic, does SK broadcast TV or radio into the North. The people seem to have no real idea what is going on outside NK. I think a major reason for the "collapse" of socialst Europe was the Voice of America and other avenues of information that let the people know that their socialist rulers were lying to them.

The same thing could happen in NK.

[Sava]

Neddy, Neddy, Neddy...

China and North Korea are Authoritarian states... not socialist, not communist. The closest thing to a Socialist state is Canada. Last time I checked, Canada wasn't a brutal dictatorship run by an evil regime.

I never hesitate to bring up one of my favorite quotes in a situation like this:
"Don't piss on my boots an tell me it's raining."

Well Neddy... China and North Korea are pissing on your boots, and you think its raining.

[Sava]

The people seem to have no real idea what is going on outside NK

The people seem to have no real idea what is going on outside America