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  • #31
    Or just CGI her.
    Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
    Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
    We've got both kinds

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    • #32
      well trade you our lackluster electronic music for the monarchy.
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      • #33
        Now now, we all know the monarchy can re-invent itself. Who knows, maybe King Will will marry a nice Indian girl (or guy!) and start refering to himself as Maharaja William.

        It's not like we have a great republican-esque rallying cry anyway. What do we have that ranks with "Liberty and Justice for all!" or "Liberte, Egalite, Fratenite!"? I mean, can people honestly get excited about a republic who's motto is "Shame about the weather."?
        Exult in your existence, because that very process has blundered unwittingly on its own negation. Only a small, local negation, to be sure: only one species, and only a minority of that species; but there lies hope. [...] Stand tall, Bipedal Ape. The shark may outswim you, the cheetah outrun you, the swift outfly you, the capuchin outclimb you, the elephant outpower you, the redwood outlast you. But you have the biggest gifts of all: the gift of understanding the ruthlessly cruel process that gave us all existence [and the] gift of revulsion against its implications.
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        • #34
          If I'm posting here then Counterglow must be down.

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          • #35
            Star child I think you have summed up exactly why there has never been a popular revolution in this country
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            • #36
              Liz is not totally powerless, didn't she give the Austrailian PM his pink slip for breaking Austrailian
              constitutional law about 20 years ago?

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Ozz
                Liz is not totally powerless, didn't she give the Austrailian PM his pink slip for breaking Austrailian
                constitutional law about 20 years ago?
                Nah the governor general did it. He acts in the Queens name, but doesn't take orders form her.
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by TheStinger
                  Star child I think you have summed up exactly why there has never been a popular revolution in this country
                  I hold that the UK is the only country on the planet that could make Soviet style communism work. We enjoy waiting in queues, are taught to rarely complain, and are used to a press that has no connection with reality anway.
                  Exult in your existence, because that very process has blundered unwittingly on its own negation. Only a small, local negation, to be sure: only one species, and only a minority of that species; but there lies hope. [...] Stand tall, Bipedal Ape. The shark may outswim you, the cheetah outrun you, the swift outfly you, the capuchin outclimb you, the elephant outpower you, the redwood outlast you. But you have the biggest gifts of all: the gift of understanding the ruthlessly cruel process that gave us all existence [and the] gift of revulsion against its implications.
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                  • #39
                    And it doesn't matter if everything is painted utalitarian grey because it all looks grey with the clouds anyway.
                    Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
                    Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
                    We've got both kinds

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                    • #40
                      I don't think the monarchy makes the UK look silly, but the that's just me. Ppl seem to really like them, and that's nice. Does movie Stars or American icons make the US look silly?
                      Monkey!!!

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by TheStinger


                        Nah the governor general did it. He acts in the Queens name, but doesn't take orders form her.
                        Well if he was off on a sick day Liz would have. It was
                        an action by the "Crown"

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                        • #42
                          Well I suppose in some ways the monarchy can make Britain look stupid, thats in the sense that its got so many parellels with "The Empire". On the other hand though I think they do a great deal of good.

                          Im not a monarchist but would hate to see them go. The attention and continuity they brink to Britain is good. Ive noted that earlier responses have reflected the weekly visits from Prime Ministers, well I feel a lot of good comes out of that, whilst it might seem like a cosy chat to pay homage to a monarch EII has been there 50 years and witnessed the politics of many Prime Ministers.

                          Lets look at elected representatives as a comparison to the heredetory. A lot of them are in it for the wrong reasons, power, self interest, they adopt policies that are short termist and for votes, not necessarily for the good of the people. While im not saying EII has any great interest and perhaps there is self interest. A monarch looks at the long game.

                          Back to making us look stupid. Well how stupid did we look when 1 billiion people watched the Silver jubilee on TV? Why were they watching. Hey it was an excuse for a good party and we threw one. How many will watch When Prince William marries? I'll bet it will top 3 billion.........

                          There is something in a lot of us that needs a figure head, a leader, and whilst it doesnt serve everyone, weve all "own" a bit of it.

                          Long live the Queen.

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                          • #43
                            Err thats Golden Jubilee.

                            Long Live the Queen..............

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                            • #44
                              here in the states the supermarket tabloids ( a somewhat differrnt breed from tabloid dailies, which tend to be not quite as bad as Brit tabloid dailies, with the exception of the NY Post) just love the monarchy, and the kind of people who read them seem fascicated with it. I dont think much of it, but that marks me off as elitist i guess. They fit the classic definition of celebs - theyre famous for being famous.

                              I think UK would be better off with a more scandinavian style monarchy - less wealth, fewer castles, etc. Keep their constitutional role and reduce their profile - although that would cost in tourism, and i dont know if ordinary brits could deal with it.

                              and while youre at it, maybe a change in personnel?? the argument could be made that the problem is just this particular family, which has been doing embarrassing things for about 100 years now.
                              "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by lord of the mark
                                kind of people who read them seem fascicated

                                the argument could be made that the problem is just this particular family, which has been doing embarrassing things for about 100 years now.
                                Doing embarrassing things makes for GOOD stories.
                                You get a sane family, well .....BORING!!

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