Has Bush Gone Mad?

[DanS]

This article for one (AP).

It says nothing of the sort. Rather, it says the US doesn't currently have those votes. Come on, che!

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Caligastia
Bush cannot gain much politically from this move, and considering he is a commited christian, I trust his honesty.

I wish we could have him committed. I don't trust Christians any more than I trust anyone else. I especially don't trust people who make a big show of their beliefs. Like Jeshua said, don't be like the hypocrites who shout their faith in public.

[SlowwHand]

You like like this is "News", Chegitz.
Our President said long, long ago,no matter who else involves themselves.

So go away. Go to Cuba. It's close by you.
You hate all about the USA so much, take David, and tear your ass.

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by Ned
WTF does this mean? Do we turn our guns on Turkey when the Iraqi's surrender?

Sure. Why not. I expect that anyway.

[Skanky Burns]

Originally posted by Caligastia


"The Government" is not a singular evil entity/personality. It's made up of people. Sometimes people lie, sometimes they tell the truth. Bush cannot gain much politically from this move, and considering he is a commited christian, I trust his honesty.

What? You were joking, weren't you?

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Sprayber
Urban Ranger: How can he disarm if the US is lieing about all this and he isn't violating anything. Unless you think he is hiding things.

While the US and Iraq can't both be telling the truth about the situation, they can both be lying.

Hans Blix got a list of items unaccounted for. Iraq might slowly coming out with the documents and/or evidence for them. Like what they just did.

[Sprayber]

I only ask that you guys don't burn the country up while im gone. It would be a shame to come back to burned city streets. Don't do their job for them.

[DanS]

Yep. I guess che is mostly harmless, Sprayber.

[SlowwHand]

Well-said, Sprayber.

[Caligastia]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Most of the rest of the people on the planet seem to care about it, that's who.

Do you have any statistics to back that up?

Nor does your question address any of the questions I raised. How will US refusal to continue persuing the matter affect other governments, whose support of the US is deeply unpopular with their own people and could only be sustained as part of a UN effort?

How about some examples of those countries, with some hard evidence of public opinion?
Anyway, in the end, the US has to do what is right for the US.

BTW, the Human Rights commission chairing was a deliberate snub to the US over its refusal to support Kyoto, the Land Mine ban, and it's withdrawl from the ABM treaty.

Nice to see they take their Human rights commission seriously, and don't manipulate it merely to provoke the us.

It's not that anyone believes Libya is somehow a enlightened state.

So we shouldn't take anything the UN does seriously. Glad you agree.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by DanS
This article for one (AP).

It says nothing of the sort. Rather, it says the US doesn't currently have those votes. Come on, che!

I misread your initial question.

There's another AP article about Turkey reconsidering a new vote to allow US troops onto Turkish soil. The Turks want to wait to put the second resolution before their parliament until after the UN approves of military action, think that it will gain support then. "The United States, aware that resolution might not pass, may not be prepared to wait that long and could abandon Turkey and ship troops and equipment instead to the Gulf where an invasion force is massing." That indicates that the US believes it may not be able to get the votes it wants.

On the flip side, is it possible the Turks don't want the US troops there because an Amerian presense might hinder Turkish military plans in Northern Iraq? Without the US around, the Turks would have a free hand in Kurdistan.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
You hate all about the USA so much, take David, and tear your ass.

Yup, love it or leave it. Guess, what, this is just as much my country as it is yours. I have every right to disagree with our insane and evil leader and I have a duty to try and stop him. We didn't elect him, but since he's in charge of our country, it's our responsibility to control him. I find "good Germans" to be the most contemptable of people. I will not sit around idly while my country and my planet needs me.

[Sprayber]

I actually understand che's concerns. No goverment should be trusted completely. Our founding fathers didn't. But things must be done within the system. If you dont like bush then organize and try to get him out of office. But once you cross the line of the kind of defiance that some people(not necessarly che) wouldn't think twice about, you only do more harm than good.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Caligastia
Do you have any statistics to back that up?

Have you been paying any attention to the news or even the threads on this website which show that only in three countries in the world is there majority popular support for this war: the US, Israel, and Kuwait. Blair will fall.

[Caligastia]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


I wish we could have him committed. I don't trust Christians any more than I trust anyone else. I especially don't trust people who make a big show of their beliefs. Like Jeshua said, don't be like the hypocrites who shout their faith in public.

I'm not a Christian, but I respect many Christian ideals. One of them is honesty, and if Bush is truly devoted to his faith, then I find him more trustworthy.

As for "making a show of your faith", I don't think Bush has gone overboard in professing his faith. Perhaps you think he shouldn't mention it at all...?