The State of Computer Gaming.

[Asher]

Who wants a game that after you've played it once, it holds nothing new for you?

Can this logic be extrapolated to include your love life?

[Imran Siddiqui]

Boris: The Longest Journey was a good game, with a GREAT story (a sequal is coming out soon). Syberia was supposed to be good this year, but I haven't played it yet.

I agree with your assesment of the adventure genre, but if they are $20, then its more feasible.

[Boris Godunov]

Asher: nyuk nyuk! We'll compare relationship lengths (and anything else...).

Imran: I can buy a great novel for $6-10. I can go see a great story at the movies for $10. I can buy a great story on DVD for $12-15. Anything over that for a "great story," even if it's a PC game, is too much, IMO. I'd rather just rent!

[Ozz]

Originally posted by monolith94
I mock all RPGers who have not played through at least two of the "Pools Of Radiance" games.

Buck Rogers series is great too.

Shooter with a story - System Shock 1

Best role playing ever made - Star Control 2

[Imran Siddiqui]

I can buy a great story on DVD for $12-15.

Where do you get your DVDs?! I now know that I pay too much for them .

[Ozz]

Originally posted by Sandman
I feel that PC games developers often release half-finished products, safe in the knowledge that the 'modding community' will do the work for free. This is damaging for PC games as a whole, in my opinion.

It's a "paradox" that the modders destroy what they
love and developers get away with selling half baked
wares.

[Sandman]

Excellent pun.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

I can buy a great story on DVD for $12-15.

Where do you get your DVDs?! I now know that I pay too much for them .

Usually BarnesandNoble.com. Free shipping in Manhattan.

[Sten Sture]

Compare today's proliferation and featuritis with the late 70s grognard war game stuff. They killed the whole industry with 50 page rule books and roomsized maps. Complexity is the bane of most games.

[dudemanjack]

Originally posted by Asher

That's why the game sucks. Anyone worth their salt in hockey will tell you that, if you want a real game of hockey, NHL 2K3 is the best bet in town.

Seeing as Sava is just your average American, I can see why he thinks EA's NHL is fine. He just doesn't really understand how hockey is meant to be played.

Yeah, I have finally seen the light as far as sports games go. I bought my first non-madden football game, NFK2k3. I'll probably buy the new sega baseball game, and maybe pick up NHL2k3 (more likely will wait until next year), and in the meantime, get NBA2k3.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Compare today's proliferation and featuritis with the late 70s grognard war game stuff. They killed the whole industry with 50 page rule books and roomsized maps. Complexity is the bane of most games.

Good point Sten. This is also why wargames is a small subset of the gaming market today.

Usually BarnesandNoble.com. Free shipping in Manhattan.

Damn you city folk! Oh wait, I live near a big city...

[raghar]

Do you remmember Morrowind? Graphicaly so so, but not too good as RPG. Yes I run Morrowind on 450 MHz with RIVA tnt2, but I think even ADOM could do it better.
BTW Adom is in 1.1.1 version... continual development with same people. This is what Bethesda missed. Yea and becouse they ignored my warning, Morrowind WAS ugly result.

Game development is an art, and if you'd forgot this you are nailed. You could get good marketing, lots of money, but without well thought and good design you are nearly nothing.

Civ 3 and MOO wasn't reworked and there was lots of ugly things that didn't worked well together. It remminds me of post war Japan. Hey boys we will force you in US type democracy and you would gain lots of nice features for you regime. Yes and lots of UGLY features too, if they want or not.

[SirTweek]

How about games that come not only full of bugs and in need of modding and constant patching but games that come with obvious little corners having been cut. Like having the manual on the disc in Adobe for you to print out yourself, manuals full of spelling errors and game information errors, CD's without a jewel case, games full of spelling errors. Things such as the above to me are like a slap in the face. It's like saying we don't care about you or the quality of our game enough to print out a manual, correct the spelling, make the manual accurate, ect... Nothing pisses me off more.

[Zero]

If anyone has complaints with state of computer gaming these days, just grab a Playstation2 with "misc service" from Chinatown. Then twiddle your thumb till march 27th, run to the store and pick up an import copy of soul calibur II.

Trust me. You wont regret it

[Imran Siddiqui]

Do you remmember Morrowind? Graphicaly so so, but not too good as RPG

I LOVED Morrowind! I consider it the greatest game of all time.