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  • #46
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    • #47
      I agree. You learn something every day.

      This thread has brought to mind a kid in highschool. His name was Elton Anwick and for all I know he might not have been gay, but an effiminate non-jock with a lisp and that name.....well. We had very little contact so I dont know the details but he had it pretty rough. Its no wonder that a couple of friends of mine who are gay (sluts ) never let on for an instant in highschool.
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      • #48
        So gay bashing still happens. And it's bad.

        Now where is this thread going to go? We are all agreed.
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        • #49
          Originally posted by Boris Godunov
          Sava, once again...intent matters. That's why we differentiate First-degree, second-degree and manslaughter. Would you give out the same sentence for manslaughter as for first-degree murder?

          But, using your example, if this man had happened to die, should they raise the charge from, say, manslaughter to second-degree murder, because it's a hate crime?

          I've never seen a love crime.

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          • #50
            whats the point of the gay olypcics? cant gays compete with straight people? im not against it, but why does it existe?
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            • #51
              Originally posted by Tuberski



              But, using your example, if this man had happened to die, should they raise the charge from, say, manslaughter to second-degree murder, because it's a hate crime?

              I've never seen a love crime.

              no ack
              Hate Crime statutes don't work that way, AFAIK. They usually just allow judges/juries to impose lengthier sentences on people convicted of such crimes.

              One of the reasons Hate Crime statutes are important is in instances where the victim dies. A defendant who might ordinarily only get 15-20 years for 2nd degree murder could incur a much lengthier sentence under Hate Crime laws.
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              • #52
                wouldn't that be 1st degree murder not 2nd?

                In any case having hate crime laws just makes things worse if you ask me. That is just going to piss these skin heads off even worse, and they will commit more hate crimes.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
                  whats the point of the gay olypcics? cant gays compete with straight people? im not against it, but why does it existe?
                  Maybe straight athletes didn't want to compete with gay ones?
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                  • #54
                    Diss, that's F'ed reasoning

                    I'm torn on the whole hate-crime thing. I'm my little perfect world, punishment should be judged on the individual nature of the crime. If you assault someone and put them in the hospital, I don't really care if it's because you don't like gay people or if you fought someone over a place in line at the DMV. Punishment should be the same. But this issue encompasses the whole concept of punishment in general.

                    I guess you could say I'm not for having lighter sentences for people who commit "hate crimes"... I'm for stricter sentences for people that commit the same crimes for different reasons.
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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Boddington's


                      Maybe straight athletes didn't want to compete with gay ones?
                      As an amateur hockey player, I can officially say that the sexual orientation of your opponent doesn't (and shouldn't) factor in to the competition. If you are playing a sport and are uncomfortable with the idea that someone competing with or against you might be gay, then you have a problem and you need to deal with it. That's your problem, not the gay person's. Anyways, I wouldn't even mind a gay guy being in the same locker room with me. If anything, he could give a credible opinion on how hot I am.
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                      • #56
                        You're a hockey puck, Sava.
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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Boddington's


                          Maybe straight athletes didn't want to compete with gay ones?
                          Hey, if straights are too afraid of the competition, that's their problem!
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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Sava
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                            • #59
                              Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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                              • #60
                                Somewhat out of the blue and perhaps a bit tangentally, there was a man murdered in Stanley Park a year or two ago in what seems to be a clear case of gay-bashing.

                                At the time I said I would try to report on any updates on the police investigation that seemed to be stymied as I lived in Vancouver and would be more likely to hear the report. Rather than try to dig up the old thread, I will just tell you here that they have finally made an arrest last week and expect more arrests to follow.

                                By the way, I am not gay. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

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