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Well, both France and the US are claiming the majority is with them.
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The veto was designed to make possible that the fundamental interests of the five powers were not endangered. Except for Russia, I dont see the fundamental interests of China or France endangered by the Irak war.Statistical anomaly.
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This should answer the question:
The whitehouse is not accepting any more delaying tactics from any power.U.S. Rejects Deadline for Iraq to Disarm
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By BARRY SCHWEID, AP Diplomatic Writer
WASHINGTON - The Bush administration on Wednesday dismissed a compromise proposal by Canada to set an end-of-March deadline for Iraq to comply with U.N. disarmament demands.
After Secretary of State Colin Powell (news - web sites) conferred by telephone with Foreign Minister Bill Graham, the State Department spokesman Richard Boucher said the proposal "only procrastinates on a decision we all should be prepared to take."
Boucher recalled other governments tried earlier to set a deadline for Iraq. But he said, in the meantime "we have heard from inspectors again, again and again" that Iraq had not agreed to fully disarm.
Earlier, President Bush (news - web sites) called Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) "a master of disguise and delay" Wednesday and mocked the Iraqi leader for disclosing some weapons that he'd previously denied were in his arsenal.
On a day in which the White House threatened Saddam with trial as a war criminal in the event of war, Bush said, "The danger with Iraq is that he can strike in the neighborhood and the danger with Iraq is that he has got the willingness and capacity to train al-Qaida type organizations and provide them with equipment to hurt Americans."
Saddam "will be disarmed one way or the other," the president declared as his administration prepared for another faceoff at the United Nations (news - web sites) on a resolution designed to bring about the disarmament of Iraq.
In remarks before the Latino Coalition, however, Bush stopped short of repeating previous claims of an already existing link between Iraq and al-Qaida terrorists. But he did say, "The world has waited a long time for Mr. Saddam Hussein to disarm."
From the speech, Bush stepped into a meeting with President Geidar Aliev of Azerbaijan, a country 250 miles northeast of Iraq, which has backed the U.S. call for Iraq's disarmament.
On Tuesday, Bush said that if the Iraqi president and his generals "take innocent life, if they destroy infrastructure, they will be held accountable as war criminals."I believe Saddam because his position is backed up by logic and reason...David Floyd
i'm an ignorant greek...MarkGComment
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What's taking Labour so long to throw Blair out on his ass?"Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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That's only true to a point. You're certainly right that if you think there is (or isn't) cause to attack Iraq, then what the UN member states say should be irrelevant. However, there are other implications, namely the aftermath. If the action is backed by the UN, then it is alot easier to get international support during the post-war time, especially in terms of "peacekeeping" forces (for lack of a better term) and monetary assistance in rebuilding destroyed infrastructure. It will also be easier to bring other Arab governments on side, which may help ease some of the anti-American sentiment in the region (though certainly not eradicate it).Originally posted by Chris 62
People that say 'we suppost the war, but ONLY with UN backing" are the most odd of all, in my opinion.
Anyone that follows the UN knows it's a self interest "what can you do for me" organization, and therefore, useless on both moral matters and national defense matters.
Why does Chirac or Putin agreeing make it OK?
Either you believe in the war or not, the UN opinion should be irrelivent.
Granted, not that many people have given it that much thought, and I'd be willing to agree with you that most people who only support the war with UN backing don't really know why."The French caused the war [Persian Gulf war, 1991]" - Ned
"you people who bash Bush have no appreciation for one of the great presidents in our history." - Ned
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Well, both France and the US are claiming the majority is with them.
Well, we'll see.
Powell believes he has the African nations on board. I think these deals have already been worked out. If you add Mexico to our column, then that would put us at 8 (US, UK, Spain, Bulgaria, Mexico, Angola, Cameroon, and Guinea).
This leaves Pakistan and Chile on the fence.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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If he won't resign, they'd have to call a vote of no confidence, which would bring new elections, whioch would probably sweep the Liberal-Democrats into power, since they are solidly anti-war.Originally posted by Ramo
What's taking Labour so long to throw Blair out on his ass?Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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I was under the impression that Labour MP's were overwhelmingly anti-war."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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Then wouldn't that be a bad decision for Labour to make - politically speaking?Originally posted by chegitz guevara
If he won't resign, they'd have to call a vote of no confidence, which would bring new elections, whioch would probably sweep the Liberal-Democrats into power, since they are solidly anti-war.
"I read a book twice as fast as anybody else. First, I read the beginning, and then I read the ending, and then I start in the middle and read toward whatever end I like best." - Gracie AllenComment
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At the peace rally in Glasgow, a rebel Labour MP addressed the crowd, saying that the Labour Party is not split. The Labour Party is against this war. It was probably the second best speech of the day.Comment
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People that say 'we suppost the war, but ONLY with UN backing" are the most odd of all, in my opinion.
One, because the reason Iraq is to be attacked is that they are building weapons prohibited by UN resolutions. So the UN should be the one to flag violations.
Two, the UN was established to try and curb wars. If there had been a UN around in '14 to solve the Serbian issue a lot of headaches could have been avoided.
If a large group of countries can agree that a country has to be taken out, it's makes everybody feel like it's not just a personal vendetta, or imperial warmongering. That has the effect of easing tensions among other countries who could be next on the aggressors radar.Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will, as it did Obi Wan's apprentice.Comment
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I don't think the U.S. will have any problem purchasing Chile's vote. Pakistan will sign up once we remind them that we're giving them a pass on supporting terrorists and selling nuclear weapons to our enemies.Originally posted by DanS
Well, both France and the US are claiming the majority is with them.
Well, we'll see.
Powell believes he has the African nations on board. I think these deals have already been worked out. If you add Mexico to our column, then that would put us at 8 (US, UK, Spain, Bulgaria, Mexico, Angola, Cameroon, and Guinea).
This leaves Pakistan and Chile on the fence.Comment
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Yeah, but unless Labour takes the risky step of ousting their PM, they're going to be seen as not being against the war. You Brits have days to sack your PM if we're gonna stop this war.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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The 'problem' is there is no-one to challenge Blair.
Not a problem for me, but for those that want Blair out to stop war, which I think is bad reason to depose him
One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.Comment
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Why do y'all need anyone special to challenge Blair? Isn't his approval rating in the 30%'s?"Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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