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Sales taxes, as all regressive taxes, are authoritarian and oppressive in the extreme, thus never justified. 
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"Progressive" taxes aren't?Comment
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Yeah, rich people are so oppressed... it's criminal!To us, it is the BEAST.Comment
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They're significantly less oppressive than regressive taxes, thus can be justified.Last edited by Ramo; February 25, 2003, 23:04."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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I only made 5 million last year becuase of the systematic opression of rich people. I may have to get a job if this keeps up. Oh my, what will become of me?
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I had to buy a 20 million dollar estate instead of the 25 million dollar one I wanted... DAMN LIBERALS AND THEIR CONSPIRACIES!!!To us, it is the BEAST.Comment
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So some oppression is justified, thx for clearing that up.They're significantly less oppressive than regressive taxes, thus can be justified.Comment
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that's right... it's so wrong to oppress rich people!! they are so unfairly treated!To us, it is the BEAST.Comment
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Apparently certain kinds of oppression are okay as long as those doing the oppressing - liberals - get to decide who the victims are, how convenient.Comment
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that's right its all the liberals fault... they want to oppress rich people, they are so evil... right on BERSEKER!To us, it is the BEAST.Comment
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It sure isn't us libertarians using government to steal from others.Comment
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That's right (by oppression, I mean force, so I might not be saying what you think I am). I believe the goal of society should be to minimize authority. So, authoritarian acts can be justified when they reduce net authority. This is why certain prison and police systems can be justified, for instance.So some oppression is justified, thx for clearing that up."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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Ramo -Am I "oppressing" a would-be murderer if I defend myself? If not, then it's not "force" that is oppressive, but the initiation of force, true?That's right (by oppression, I mean force, so I might not be saying what you think I am).
Authority is not the problem, mis-placed authority is the problem. We all have the authority to defend ourselves from attack, therefore government, on our behalf, has that authority.I believe the goal of society should be to minimize authority.
You've switched from force/oppression to authority, aren't they essentially the same thing?
And how does the use of force to compel a rich or poor person to hand over their money - taxes, progressive or not - reduce this "net authority" if that person is using no force (authority) against others?So, authoritarian acts can be justified when they reduce net authority. This is why certain prison and police systems can be justified, for instance.Comment
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So how will you deal with the issue of the rich oppressing the poor, Berzerker?(\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
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