Was Stalin really that evil?

[Serb]

I hope Russian.

[Serb]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


Russian is Siro's native yazik, brat.

I was trying to joking, brat.

[The Mad Monk]

I'm fairly sure it's the English meaning -- it fits quite well.

[Az]

The famine was not a 'natural' famine- there was no drought, no significant plant disease in 1932. Stalin should not receive sole blame- his deputy in the Ukraine, Postyshev should also be tarred with the same brush, as should Molotov and Kaganovich. There was also serious famine in Central Asia and Kuban region.

very much correct, and a matter of deliberate evil policy, not of the inherent failures of a socialist govt.

I also agree on the fact that the Kolhozes were mismanaged, by not rewarding workers, and not making collective decisions, as it should've been. (like in Israel )

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Azazel

very much correct, and a matter of deliberate evil policy, not of the inherent failures of a socialist govt.

Socialist? No. Communist? Maybe.

The tune plays out too many times for the system to be seen as benign. Stalin. Mao. Pol Pot. The list is not exhausted.

The problem with socialism at the point of the bayonet has always been the leaders of those with the bayonets. That sort of power has never worn well on any human of any leaning, from right or left.

Now, Socialism by mandate is a bit of a different thing. Much of Northern Europe seems to be happy with that arrangement. Unless the Swedes engineer a liquidation of the Finns anytime soon.

[Az]

The problem with socialism at the point of the bayonet has always been the leaders of those with the bayonets. That sort of power has never worn well on any human of any leaning, from right or left.

so any sort of revolution is destined to fail?

The tune plays out too many times for the system to be seen as benign. Stalin. Mao. Pol Pot. The list is not exhausted.

we all know very well that there are plenty of capitalist leaders that can be compared with them. By capitalists I mean the upper class and their lackeys, whether free trade, or anti-free trade.

Now, Socialism by mandate is a bit of a different thing. Much of Northern Europe seems to be happy with that arrangement. Unless the Swedes engineer a liquidation of the Finns anytime soon.

I've thought about it alot, and came to the conlcusion that the Nordic states are not socialist, since neither the workers, nor their elected government doesn't control the means of production.They're welfare states.

[Serb]

Originally posted by The Mad Monk
I'm fairly sure it's the English meaning -- it fits quite well.

Thank you very much for your so-predicatable coment.

[The Mad Monk]

You're welcome!

BTW, 'brat' only works when the person in question is both young, and shows emotional immaturity. As neither applies to chegitz, throwing it back at him just looks stupid.

[Serb]

BTW, 'brat' in Russian means 'brother'. Also it could be used as dude, buddy, comrade. Who's looks stupid now, consider that half of the Che's post cosisted of Russian words?

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by The Vagabond
By "brat", do you mean the English or the Russian meaning of the word?

Ruksi yazik. Gavariti pa-ruski . . . ploxha.