You be the judge: Fair sentence for Spies

[Pekka]

Depends how much screw the country. If they give vital information of the other sides military, death.

If less than that, only endangering the national security, what ever that means, life.

If the information provided is not that vital for safety, then less prison..

.. and if caught trying to spy but not succesfull in it and first timer, deportation and losing citizenship + unofficial beating before he gets out.

[Traianvs]

lol at stinger

Death penalty is never appropriate in my opinion. Thing is, a spy is hailed as a hero in the country who he is spying for... the country that is being spied of course shoots the traitor...

Don't you think there are no spies spying for America then? All those secret service teams etc are paid with your money! So do people still have the right to shoot your American spies then?

I remember that incident with the American spy plane was caught (or crashed) down on Chinese soil... I don't remember it that well but i do think the crew was handed over to the Americans... according to the "shooit the traitor" bastards, the crew should have been shot, right?

[Pekka]

And of course if the country spy is doing the work for is actually in a state of war against own country, death by default, no matter what the information is. Naturally in all of these cases their must be solid proof.

[Traianvs]

no matter what the information is?

boy, they ought to shoot crazy people like you in the head someday in order to rid the world of sick people!

[SlowwHand]

What do you suppose happens to American spies, Trajan?
You think this is one of those infamous "USA Only" situations?

[Traianvs]

I was asking if it was okay then to shoot American spies...

I probably won't get an answer to this

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Trajanus
I remember that incident with the American spy plane was caught (or crashed) down on Chinese soil...

Apples do not equal oranges.

[OmniDude]

I'll risk an outsiders view:

Well, the timing isn't exactly doing him any favors. Still, a master sargeant? What could he possibly have clearance for or even opportunity to lay his hands on?

He can be held accountable in other ways than capital punishment and the Rosenbergs crime was a whole different ballgame.

I'll buy the 20 years with Bubba, though Bubba may not be too interested...

[Ozz]

Originally posted by Trajanus
lol at stinger
I remember that incident with the American spy plane was caught (or crashed) down on Chinese soil... I don't remember it that well but i do think the crew was handed over to the Americans... according to the "shooit the traitor" bastards, the crew should have been shot, right?

Wrong, The plane was recording radio signals from
international waters off the coast of China. The
plane and crew were plainly and clearly marked as US
military. The Chinese buzzed the plane too close
and hit it, and it made a emergency landing in china.

It not a case of espionage.

[SlowwHand]

Originally posted by Trajanus
I was asking if it was okay then to shoot American spies...

I probably won't get an answer to this

Why wouldn't you get an answer?

ANSWER:
It doesn't matter what I think, it's a fact of war.
Spies are shot.
Join Boris in belittling, if that's how you want to go, but that won't change the facts much .

Look at James Bond. People always after his ass.

[Ozz]

Originally posted by Trajanus
I was asking if it was okay then to shoot American spies...

I probably won't get an answer to this

It's OK to shot anyone convicted of espionage, spying
is too loose a term really.

[SlowwHand]

Not really. In a war, you're supposed to be in uniform of your "side".
If you're not, you'll be considered a spy.

[SlowwHand]

Spy- to watch secretly usually for hostile purposes

[Traianvs]

Well, if a spy was wearing an enemy uniform, wouldn't he be shot as well?

[monolith94]

I consider a spy to be an 'intelligence soldier'. Hence if a country is found to be actively spying on me, I would consider it an act of war (unless they were stronger than me ). As such, those captured, and found guilty of spying are prisoners of war. The only option I see is permanent exile. The guy wants to sell secrets to Iraq, huh? Let's send him there, see how he likes living in a barracks with Saddam...