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Originally posted by David Floyd
Oh. My criteria had to do with morality, not effectiveness.
Oh. My criteria had to do with morality, not effectiveness.
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Then why didn't Carter rate at least a 2 if you didn't particularly care about thier effectiveness?I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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If I was going with morality I'd have given them all 1's (or F's) like you did.Originally posted by David Floyd
Oh. My criteria had to do with morality, not effectiveness.
"I'm a guy - I take everything seriously except other people's emotions"
"Never play cards with any man named 'Doc'. Never eat at any place called 'Mom's'. And never, ever...sleep with anyone whose troubles are worse than your own." - Nelson Algren
"A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic." - Joseph Stalin (attr.)Comment
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Originally posted by David Floyd
Oh. My criteria had to do with morality, not effectiveness.
There you go David, first time I ever heard you admit that your opinions are not based on the real world. If you thought about it a second (unlikely) you would realize that the reason you can't find any political leaders you like is that this remains a cold cruel world and all the nations ever lead by moral men are, well, gone.
If ever any were.Comment
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Well, because he did nothing about ending social programs, the income tax, foreign aid, support for Israel, involvement in NATO, huge military spending, and things of that nature.Then why didn't Carter rate at least a 2 if you didn't particularly care about thier effectiveness?Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/DaveDaDouche
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I agree that no nations are currently led by moral men. The US certainly isn't. Actually the leader of the US is more immoral than average, at least for current world leaders.There you go David, first time I ever heard you admit that your opinions are not based on the real world. If you thought about it a second (unlikely) you would realize that the reason you can't find any political leaders you like is that this remains a cold cruel world and all the nations ever lead by moral men are, well, gone.Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/DaveDaDouche
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I do recall him making noises about liberalizing marijuana laws, thoughOriginally posted by David Floyd
Well, because he did nothing about ending social programs, the income tax, foreign aid, support for Israel, involvement in NATO, huge military spending, and things of that nature.
"I'm a guy - I take everything seriously except other people's emotions"
"Never play cards with any man named 'Doc'. Never eat at any place called 'Mom's'. And never, ever...sleep with anyone whose troubles are worse than your own." - Nelson Algren
"A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic." - Joseph Stalin (attr.)Comment
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David, I really think that Carter is as close to your kind of idiot that we are ever going to get in the White House.Comment
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How? He and I are pretty much completely opposite in our views on politics and morality.David, I really think that Carter is as close to your kind of idiot that we are ever going to get in the White House.
I don't recall him doing it, though.I do recall him making noises about liberalizing marijuana laws, thoughFollow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/DaveDaDouche
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Lemmie get this straight, being premptively attacked by the enemy is the leaders fault, when the alternative is to charge straight into the war (going against your reasoning) ?Originally posted by David Floyd
OK, here's some justifications:
Roosevelt - 1, started tons of wealth transfer programs, massive income taxes, and got us involved in WW2Comment
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His impotence on the foreign scene doesn't endear him to you in the least bit?Originally posted by David Floyd
How? He and I are pretty much completely opposite in our views on politics and morality.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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FDR was in bed with Churchill pretty much from 1940 onward, despite most Americans wanting no part of a war with Germany.Originally posted by Getao321
Lemmie get this straight, being premptively attacked by the enemy is the leaders fault, when the alternative is to charge straight into the war (going against your reasoning) ?"I'm a guy - I take everything seriously except other people's emotions"
"Never play cards with any man named 'Doc'. Never eat at any place called 'Mom's'. And never, ever...sleep with anyone whose troubles are worse than your own." - Nelson Algren
"A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic." - Joseph Stalin (attr.)Comment
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Roosevelt - 1
Truman - 1
Eisenhower - 1
Kennedy - 1
Johnson - 1
Nixon - 1
Ford - 1
Carter - 1
Reagan - 1
Bush I - 1
Clinton - 1
Bush II - 1
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According to David, the embargo on Japan was a valid cause for attacking the US.Originally posted by Getao321
Lemmie get this straight, being premptively attacked by the enemy is the leaders fault, when the alternative is to charge straight into the war (going against your reasoning) ?I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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Doesn't make him immoral, though... there'll be laws against dope use in the USA until hell freezes, whether he wanted them or not.Originally posted by David Floyd
I don't recall him doing it, though."I'm a guy - I take everything seriously except other people's emotions"
"Never play cards with any man named 'Doc'. Never eat at any place called 'Mom's'. And never, ever...sleep with anyone whose troubles are worse than your own." - Nelson Algren
"A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic." - Joseph Stalin (attr.)Comment
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No, I don't make this claim. My claim is that Japan would not have attacked the US without US provocations, of which support for China, forward deploying PacFlt and the embargo were a couple of examples.According to David, the embargo on Japan was a valid cause for attacking the US.
As to being attacked by Germany, this would not have happened if we were actually trying to avoid war, which we certainly were not.
Not really. He didn't, for example, withdraw from NATO, or take troops out of Korea.His impotence on the foreign scene doesn't endear him to you in the least bit?
STYOM,
He could have refused to enforce them.Doesn't make him immoral, though... there'll be laws against dope use in the USA until hell freezes, whether he wanted them or not.Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/DaveDaDouche
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