Our Allies... the Germans

[Sava]

some people think themselves into conclusions, when in reality, they have limited knowledge of subjects

[Lefty Scaevola]

Originally posted by Sava
I don't know if you're a DL, but you're funny!

Venom is a dual personality, not a dual logon.

[Lefty Scaevola]

Originally posted by Sava
some people think themselves into conclusions, when in reality, they have limited knowledge of subjects

I was unaware that anyone had compleat knowledge or any subject.

[Sava]

this day cannot be called lost, for you have learned something new!

[DinoDoc]

The German government suppressed evidence of small pox virus arsenals in Iraq for months, fearing such news could undermine Chancellor Gerhardt Schroeder's re-election campaign

I think that we need to get back to the point of this thread.

How do you think this news will effect Schroeder's standing? Will it change the dynamics in the Security Council?

[Lancer]

DinoDoc, I don't think so. The opposition to war in Iraq is BS. They are opposed to the US, and this news won't change that. These people don't seem capable of thinking...just hating the US.

[Lancer]

They are programmed.

[Sava]

Yeah, because there aren't any good reasons to be against a war in Iraq.

[oedo]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
I think that we need to get back to the point of this thread.

How do you think this news will effect Schroeder's standing? Will it change the dynamics in the Security Council?

not at all. do you think even only one goverment will withdraw because of secret deliveries of WMD s in the past? if so the whole western world would face new presidents, prime ministers and cancellors.

this article from last year summarizes the german deliveries of weapons and technologies to Irak. most of them are from the middle 80´s. biotechnical exports are mentioned there as well:

http://www.epd.de/entwicklungspolitik/2488_8116.htm

it´s in german language but I think it´s worth the translating.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by oedo
do you think even only one goverment will withdraw because of secret deliveries of WMD s in the past?

That's not what I was talking about. Read what I quoted.

[Az]

Oedo: BTW, if you remember me asking you about an article in Focus magazine, this was the article I was talking about.

[oedo]

Originally posted by DinoDoc

That's not what I was talking about. Read what I quoted.

ok.
it´s up to the UN or the US to develop an affair out of it. if what you quoted is true and a unique case then I would call it a scandal.

Azazel: yes I remember you asked, if Focus is serious magazine. however I don´t remember the topic/link anymore.

[Az]

It was in one of them Iraq discussions. I asked about Focus, since I've heard they were the first to come with the story, that was posted as the topic of this thread.

Well, Nevermind.

[Dr Strangelove]

Let me see if I understand what is going on:
(1) There is evidence that Iraq has some sort of smallpox virus stock.
(2) The german government kept this information a secret.
(3) The virus may actually be Camel pox. Is this the same thing that the German documents were referring to?
(4) While the virus may be similar to human smallpox virus do we know if it is feasible to make it able to infect humans? Does Iraq have the means to do this?

[Ned]

Dr. Strangelove, What I think is going on is that the German government knew that Saddam had supplies of human smallpox virus and disclosed this information only when it was asked for justification for funding for an additional 100 million vaccination packages. In other words, the German government was preparing its people for a small pox attack even while withholding the information that might have prompted other governments across the world to themselves stockpile the vaccine. This could lead to millions of deaths outside Germany if Saddam attacks using small pox because they will not be prepared as is Germany.

I believe that withholding this information from the world while pretending that Saddam has no WoMD is criminal. It would have been more honest of Germany to simply tell the world that Saddam intended to use small pox if attacked and that if we must attack, that we should not do so until every nation has the proper amount of vaccine available.