This just in: North Korea to End armistice!

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Frogger
You're an idiot. Why should the Euros enforce your foreign policy?

Maybe they should get off the side lines and stop beaking off at the people who haul the freight?

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Trip

What's NK going to do, roll a nuke in an oil drum across Siberia and Canada?

How bout putting it on the ICBM the CIA says NK has which can reach the west?

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by notyoueither


Maybe they should get off the side lines and stop beaking off at the people who haul the freight?

The US has the troops on the line. Therefore the US voice carries more weight. The Euros can say what they like, and have weight proportional to their diplomatic strength.

If the Euros put troops on the line in the numbers that the US has them, then they'd have a lot more say in how negotiations went. I don't think the Americans would like that, first of all (which is why my comment's directed at Ned; like many Americans he seems to believe that everybody else has a responsibility to carry out the decisions of his government) and second of all I don't think it would be a good idea to have a split western military authority in the region just for the sake of safety.

the Korean peninsula is and has been the exclusive domain of the US for 50 years. Telling the Euros they should come in now and clean up a mess they've had nothing to do with since 1953 is both stupid and counterproductive.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
You're the one getting hysterical with the smilies when talking about blockades and the like.

Attack your opponent, not the argument. Always easier that way.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Why don't you show us credible information that they restarted thier program and extracted enough weapons grade material from it in the amount of time from the "Axis of Evil" speech and today?

I am not one of the people accusing DPRK. It seems that you are.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Oh come on! Surely Kim is a reasonable leader?!

Kim's a lunatic. The ****ing US pussyfooted around him when this crisis started brewing a year ago and have basically given him everything he wanted (they made an offer that looks exactly like Kim's original demands, without of course stooping to "negotiate"). Now that was so easy he figures he should be able to get a bit more, and the US is finally figuring out that they've got to make sure the NKers know who's got the warships while at the same time be willing to appear to be generous by continually giving in just a little bit to blackmail.

There's not going to be a war with NK unless:

a) The US keeps giving in way too easily making Kim take more and more or
b) The US gets into a fit of pique and decides to feel its oats a little bit (seriously, instead of bluffing)

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by DanS
No, I'm talking about NK. They're trying to get onto Washington's agenda, but nobody is buying their rhetoric.

Kim's a page 21 kinda guy from a page 21 nation.

Whereas Saddam's a page 1 story from a page 50 nation.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Frogger
Kim's a lunatic.

He is anything but a lunatic. As the W. admininstration is planning on building up in NE Asia - even establishing a "NE Asia HQ," this comes out.

He knows exactly what he's doing.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Frogger


The US has the troops on the line. Therefore the US voice carries more weight. The Euros can say what they like, and have weight proportional to their diplomatic strength.

If the Euros put troops on the line in the numbers that the US has them, then they'd have a lot more say in how negotiations went.

I guess that is why we are all ripping ourselves up over Iraq, right?

How many French and German troops there?

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger


He is anything but a lunatic. As the W. admininstration is planning on building up in NE Asia - even establishing a "NE Asia HQ," this comes out.

He knows exactly what he's doing.

So did L Ron Hubbard.

[Jon Shafer]

Originally posted by Frogger
How bout putting it on the ICBM the CIA says NK has which can reach the west?

With the nukes they say they have, right?

[DanS]

Kim got page 24 today for this "end of armistice" talk!

[KrazyHorse]

NYE: as the Bush admin keeps saying, "Iraq and NK are different situations"

Diplomacy is a lot more important in the ME than in the Koreas where it's basically a "Great Powers only" zone.

Everybody has a stake in the ME, Iraq is surrounded by nations of varying degrees of friendliness to it, Israel, Europe and the US, etc.

Euro reticence on Iraq means a lot more than Euro reticence on NK.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
http://www.ceip.org/files/nonprolif/...sp?NewsID=3871

Nothing solid then, just the usual finger pointing trick.

After Powell's own fiasco, I don't know if he can be trusted. As for CIA, how could you trust such a huge bureaucracy that uses outdated maps?

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Trip

With the nukes they say they have, right?

What are you on about, sweetheart?

NK has fully functional uranium-separation facilities and breeder reactors.

The IAEA has been inside them. As soon as NK puts its mind to it, nuclear weapons become very easy to obtain. Just from this knowledge it's impossible to tell you whether or not they've actually built a nuke, but for the CIA to tell people that they have is a lot more credible than for them to tell people that Saddam, for instance has built one.

I would think that given NK's past it wouldn't shrink from actually carrying through and building a nuke.