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Yes, no one had the means to create any form of private authority in h-g societies. That's precisely the reason why there was no public authority, hence it was a "free market."
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Catalonia during the Spanish Civil War, the Ukraine after the Russian Civil War, Southern Mexico during the Mexican Civil War, early rural Northern US, early Medieval Iceland, etc. Plus the various hunter-gatherer societies.However, if there ever was a society of all self-employed people I guess this would qualify as a new type of economy"Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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Okay Ramo, if that's the definition you use, I agree with you. However, that's not what "free market" is in economics.(\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
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There was public authority in h-g. It wasn't anarchy or free market."When you ride alone, you ride with Bin Ladin"-Bill Maher
"All capital is dripping with blood."-Karl Marx
"Of course, my response to your Marx quote is 'So?'"-Imran SiddiquiComment
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Well, I should say that things were agreed to by the community. People weren't just making their own decisions on what work to do."When you ride alone, you ride with Bin Ladin"-Bill Maher
"All capital is dripping with blood."-Karl Marx
"Of course, my response to your Marx quote is 'So?'"-Imran SiddiquiComment
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I am not really sure if there was much trading going on between or within tribes back then. Most tribes seem to be self sufficient and they operated in a primitive form of communism.(\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
(='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
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I was under the impression that "free market" in economics meant no government interference in the economy - i.e. what Myrddinn posted.Okay Ramo, if that's the definition you use, I agree with you. However, that's not what "free market" is in economics.
That doesn't mean that there's an authority. Authority is coercive. Communal organization isn't coercive.Well, I should say that things were agreed to by the community. People weren't just making their own decisions on what work to do."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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Ramo,
To have a free market all people have to be able to act independently. If they act as a community for the communities interest instead of as individuals for their self-interest it's not a free market. That is communism."When you ride alone, you ride with Bin Ladin"-Bill Maher
"All capital is dripping with blood."-Karl Marx
"Of course, my response to your Marx quote is 'So?'"-Imran SiddiquiComment
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There are no state-mandated constraints on people to not act independently in these societies. They certainly are able to act independently, but it isn't in their best interests so they act communally."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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But there is no market to determine outcomes."When you ride alone, you ride with Bin Ladin"-Bill Maher
"All capital is dripping with blood."-Karl Marx
"Of course, my response to your Marx quote is 'So?'"-Imran SiddiquiComment
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Sure there is. You only need to generalize the ideas of buying and selling to include giving."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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I'm afraid that's not a market as it's defined in economics."When you ride alone, you ride with Bin Ladin"-Bill Maher
"All capital is dripping with blood."-Karl Marx
"Of course, my response to your Marx quote is 'So?'"-Imran SiddiquiComment
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Duncan, the above post, with that sig of yours, saying "defined in economics" looks very, hmmm, ironic
Are you just a trolling capitalist? 
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You only need to generalize the ideas of buying and selling to include giving.
How is that a market?
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In a market you need real buyers and sellers. Not generalized ideas of buyers and sellers.
"When you ride alone, you ride with Bin Ladin"-Bill Maher
"All capital is dripping with blood."-Karl Marx
"Of course, my response to your Marx quote is 'So?'"-Imran SiddiquiComment
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