Rumsfeld Praises Austria in Senate!

[KrazyHorse]

Which countries, Drake?

I doubt any of them were as high profile as Iraq or had the US as deeply involved as Iraq.

Both of those are very important facts.

Countries have defaulted before, but this would be a much more important precedent.

[Velociryx]

DD, dunno....where'd it move to?

-=Vel=-

[Drake Tungsten]

Countries have defaulted before, but this would be a much more important precedent.

There's our old friend BAM...

[KrazyHorse]

You don't think?

A country that's as big as Iraq and which has US troops directly in control of it is allowed to significantly default on a 3rd party's contracts/loans?

Slightly different than the phillipines or whoever being allowed to renegotiate the terms of US presence and how much money they get paid for that.

[KrazyHorse]

Perhaps you should provide an example of a more important default that the US had direct control over...

[Drake Tungsten]

Perhaps you should provide an example of a more important default that the US had direct control over...

If you think I'm going to hunt all over the internet for sources you'll just dismiss again, you're sadly mistaken. It's your responsibility to address your ignorance on this subject; go pick up a book on the issue...

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Velociryx
DD, dunno....where'd it move to?

Eastern Mediterranean

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten

Perhaps you should provide an example of a more important default that the US had direct control over...

If you think I'm going to hunt all over the internet for sources you'll just dismiss again, you're sadly mistaken. It's your responsibility to address your ignorance on this subject; go pick up a book on the issue...

You accuse me of BAMs?

Say a name and a date, Drake. Otherwise you got nothing.

[Drake Tungsten]

You accuse me of BAMs?

I never asserted anything. I just pointed out that past defaults had not set a precedent, so to believe a default by Iraq would do so goes against the past evidence.

Nice try though, Kitty. It's always smart to try to cut your opponent off at the legs when you don't have a leg to stand on...

[KrazyHorse]

Name and a date, not a source.

Where and when has there been a more important precedent?

[Sava]

Drake is coming close to overtaking Fez. In the other thread he said war protestors support Saddam.

[Odin]

Originally posted by Sava
Drake is coming close to overtaking Fez. In the other thread he said war protestors support Saddam.

What happened to Fezzie anyway? Did he get banned pemamently?

[Comrade Tribune]

Originally posted by St Leo
Exactly what it says. [Slobodan] is not guilty, and should be released immediately.

You are an idiot.

Brilliant argument.

Originally posted by St Leo
The guys at Nuremberg were hanged for that.

For some odd reason, the guys at Versailles weren't. Oh, yeah, I remember. They didn't engage in systematic genocide.

You don´t know much about Nuremberg, do you? Not in all cases was genocide alleged. Some were *just* hanged because of their implication in starting a war of aggression.

WWI has nothing to do with it, because there never was, and probably never will be, agreement about who actually were the aggressors. Most historians would say there was no clear-cut aggressor.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Frogger
Oerdin:
If the French just care about their contracts and could avoid losing them by playing ball, then why would they be doing what they're doing now?

As a matter of fact, by your arguments they're taking a stand against their own interests.

The money is just one of the reasons. As St Leo pointed out a large share of their population is also against the war so the politicos can pontificate about how bad war is, thus winning public support, and then cut a back room deal to insure those financial interests.
Plus a little extra from uncle sam.

I suspect that will be the price to let the next resolution through the U.N.. We'll find if I'm wrong or not in about four weeks.

[Comrade Tribune]

Originally posted by Ted Striker
Does Austria stand up for anything? Other than having no spine?

Heh. Good you ask. There may soon be a plebiscite about some sort of boycott against the United States. I support the idea. Stay tuned.