What do you consider to be the most progressiven nation?

[MrFun]

By progressive, I mean based on how far a nation has gone to address societal problems, ensuring justice, distribution of wealth without destroying the incentive for individual ambition, and ensuring equal rights for all citizens regardless of gender, race, ethnicity, religion, and sexual orientation.

I suppose there really is no stopping people from voting purely on patriotic grounds, but could you TRY to look at facts about another nation, that you do not live in before voting?

If after doing that, you decide to vote your own country for other than patriotic reasons, that's fine.

At this point, I really can't decide -- maybe after I hear from Apolytoners from around the world, I can decide.

[Odin]

SWEDEN!!!

[MrFun]

Ok -- on what grounds, Odin?

[notyoueither]

Hmmm, state mandated and generally accepted multiculturalism, gay marriage, universal health care, yet still a capital driven economy, and probably a few other things. Yup, Canada.

[DuncanK]

Norway,

We were looking at a UN development index the other day and I think they were the highest. They also have the highest GDP per capita.

[Odin]

Originally posted by MrFun
Ok -- on what grounds, Odin?

It is strongly Socialist.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Hmmm, state mandated and generally accepted multiculturalism, gay marriage, universal health care, yet still a capital driven economy, and probably a few other things. Yup, Canada.

Sounds good to me.

But with gay marriage -- obviously you mean secular, civil unions, since religious demominations cannot be forced by governments to change their positions, no matter how wrongly based they are.

[DanS]

They also have the highest GDP per capita.

No they don't.

[DuncanK]

Odin,

it's not because you're Swedish is it?

[Boris Godunov]

"What do you consider to be the most progressiven nation?"

I take it you think Germany?

[MrFun]

Originally posted by DuncanK
Norway,

We were looking at a UN development index the other day and I think they were the highest. They also have the highest GDP per capita.

How accurate does GDP represent true wealth distribution within a nation though?

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by MrFun


Sounds good to me.

But with gay marriage -- obviously you mean secular, civil unions, since religious demominations cannot be forced by governments to change their positions, no matter how wrongly based they are.

Certain churches in Canada accept them and will perform rituals. And get this, they have female priests!

[DuncanK]

Originally posted by DanS
They also have the highest GDP per capita.

No they don't.

I didn't count Luxenburg.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
"What do you consider to be the most progressiven nation?"

I take it you think Germany?

Actually, that is a typo -- it would be a nice favor of Ming if he would correct that.

Now that you posted in here Boris, what is your opinion?

[DuncanK]

Originally posted by MrFun


How accurate does GDP represent true wealth distribution within a nation though?

I just remember learning that they have good social programs there. True it doesn't have anything to do with distribution, but it could be a sign of good opportunity for people.