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**Provost Harrison** · February 13, 2003, 18:10

Hey orange, let's go the whole hog and introduce stoning for adultery! You might finally make a friend of Osama Bin Laden

**orange** · February 13, 2003, 18:10

Originally posted by Sava
It's all heresy orange. If I rob a bank, there's proof of a crime. Money is missing. If I boink some chick other than my wife, there's no evidence of a crime unless my wife finds out.

The other woman may admit to it. There could be a pregnancy. There could be an STD. There could be DNA evidence on clothing (sperm, vaginal fluid). Eyewitnesses. You could walk in on them. Why is this aspect of what I'm saying so hard to understand? Evidence is not that difficult.

Sure, there's some mental distress involved in finding out you were cheated on. But big deal. It's part of life. Deal with it. It definitely is not a criminal act and it shouldn't be.

There's a lot of mental distress involved. Why should that be a 'part of life'? Maybe it shouldn't be a criminal act, but why does everyone act like this is no big deal?

**KrazyHorse** · February 13, 2003, 18:13

Because everybody does it.

**KrazyHorse** · February 13, 2003, 18:15

And perhaps it'll also teach people to be a better judge of character.

Honestly! I knew he'd cheated on his 12 previous girlfriend, but I thought I was different!

**orange** · February 13, 2003, 18:16

Originally posted by Frogger
Bull****. Half of all people in this world are cheated on. No significant portion of them kills their partner.

This woman has an abnormal capacity for murder, and displayed it. Case closed.

Perhaps. But that doesn't mean that she would have if she hadn't been cheated on. I'm sure we're all stone cold murders at heart, it just takes something in particular to set us off. We're all animals.

Why not respond to my comment that adultery laws did little if anything to lower adultery rates?

I did.

If you are going to get all defensive don't act like a dumb arse and say, "There should be penalties for adultery as well."

I'm not being defensive.

I don't really think alimony is a 'penalty' in the traditional sense. Financial support isn't great redemption, either. My "no ****" was more like "thanks for stating the obvious, smart ass"

Hey orange, let's go the whole hog and introduce stoning for adultery! You might finally make a friend of Osama Bin Laden

Hey, I'm not THAT extreme

**Sava** · February 13, 2003, 18:16

Big deal orange. I could cause someone as much mental distress by insulting them. What, should insulting people be a crime too?

I'm not saying mental distress should be part of life... it simply is. Deal with it and stop whining about how people who cheat on people should be locked up.

**orange** · February 13, 2003, 18:22

Originally posted by Frogger
Because everybody does it.

I don't. Besides, does that makes it right?

And perhaps it'll also teach people to be a better judge of character.

Honestly! I knew he'd cheated on his 12 previous girlfriend, but I thought I was different!

Hehe...I know. This woman should have left her husband when she first found out, rather than trying to shed 20 pounds and giving him sex on demand. She's dumb for staying with him.

Big deal orange. I could cause someone as much mental distress by insulting them.

No, no you really couldn't.

What, should insulting people be a crime too?

Well, think about the kids that get bullied and ****ed with in high school, and then go on a killing spree in the halls. Are those that caused the kid such a breakdown really innocent? Same idea...it happens in life, but it really shouldn't. There's no reason for it.

I'm not saying mental distress should be part of life... it simply is. Deal with it and stop whining about how people who cheat on people should be locked up.

Have I ever said they should be locked up? I toyed with the idea of criminal punishment, but I never actually said I'm in favour of it. It was more of a devil's advocate stance in the beginning since EVERYONE is defending this dead guy - why? He sounds like a right ***** to me. Did you read the barnotes?

**KrazyHorse** · February 13, 2003, 18:22

Orange: whatever. Punish people to stop other people from punishing them?

Criminal consequences to acts between consenting adults in the bedroom are untenable. They can only be vaguely and selectively enforced due to their nature, and are completely immoral in my opinion.

**KrazyHorse** · February 13, 2003, 18:26

The guy cheated on his wife. So what? It makes him a liar and a cheat. She's a murderer. That makes her unfit to share the same street with me.

**Jon Miller** · February 13, 2003, 18:28

what makes you so much better than a murderer?

Jon Miller

**orange** · February 13, 2003, 18:28

Originally posted by Frogger
Orange: whatever. Punish people to stop other people from punishing them?

It's not like you're punishing them for not doing anything wrong. And I'm not saying that it will cause an elimination in crimes of passion either. I just think it's pretty ****ty that a woman kills her husband because he cheated on her multiple times, in an obvious crime of passion and rage, and everyone defends the dead guy. Should he have died? Certainly not...and she's guilty of murder, but he would have otherwise gotten off without punishment.

Criminal consequences to acts between consenting adults in the bedroom are untenable.

Except when they violate a marriage contract. You act as if there's nothing wrong with screwing around on someone. Why have marriage at all, if it's ok to not abide by the ideals of the contract.

If that means don't get married - fine. Don't get married. Nothing wrong with that either.

They can only be vaguely and selectively enforced due to their nature, and are completely immoral in my opinion.

Why can they only be vaguely and selectively enforced?

**Sava** · February 13, 2003, 18:28

my charming personality

**Sava** · February 13, 2003, 18:30

Orange, everybody defends the dead guy because he's not alive to do so.

**orange** · February 13, 2003, 18:32

Originally posted by Frogger
The guy cheated on his wife. So what? It makes him a liar and a cheat.

Perjury. Fraud. Synonyms, and crimes.

She's a murderer. That makes her unfit to share the same street with me.

Aren't you in favour of rehabilitation for other crimes? Just asking...

**Sava** · February 13, 2003, 18:34

Oh, so telling lies should be a crime too? And I use cheats on video games, is that a crime too?

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