Has Belgium gone mad?

[Ozz]

Originally posted by Frogger
The US' continued actions in this case resemble extortion more than a legitimate trade suit.

It's an attempted strangulation by litigation.

No, it's let's dripple the Canadian Lumber industry
like a basketball until we trash it.

[Az]

Wow, cool, tribune. Once you have a comic in your post, you're surely right.

[Comrade Tribune]

Originally posted by Azazel
Wow, cool, tribune. Once you have a comic in your post, you're surely right.

It´s like the "We are the poor (pretty rich, actually), powerless (very influential, actually), disadvantaged (given special treatment, actually) minority, therefore we must be right."

[Az]

Noone says about being poor disadvantaged and poor, though the fact that you tend to say that jews are very influential,given special treatment and that the US are the lackies of the zionists doesn't put you in a very good light. And I am taking about the things you've said in this thread only.

[Comrade Tribune]

Originally posted by Azazel
...the fact that you tend to say that jews are very influential,given special treatment and that the US are the lackies of the zionists doesn't put you in a very good light.

How should telling the truth put me into a bad light?

About the special treatment: That Jews are the only people in the world that cannot be critizised (without the critic being called an anti-semite) is in itself special treatment, no?

[Az]

In case you don't know, generalizations about any national group in the terms of "influential, privlidged" is called Racism.

You cannot eat the cake and leave it intact.

[Ozz]

Originally posted by Azazel
Noone says about being poor disadvantaged and poor, though the fact that you tend to say that jews are very influential,given special treatment and that the US are the lackies of the zionists doesn't put you in a very good light. And I am taking about the things you've said in this thread only.

Part of the the problem is knowing where someones
loyalty lies. I have seen many times assumptions by
israel posters that Jewish nationals in other countries are israeli first and their loyality their home nation is a distant second. (I don't agree BTW)

Jewish People are just as responsible for sterotyping
Jewish people as anyone else.

[Comrade Tribune]

Originally posted by Azazel
In case you don't know, generalizations about any national group in the terms of "influential, privlidged" is called Racism.

Only if they are untrue.

[Ozz]

Originally posted by Azazel
In case you don't know, generalizations about any national group in the terms of "influential, privlidged" is called Racism.

You cannot eat the cake and leave it intact.

Except when applied to White Anglo Saxon Persons.

[Az]

Only if they are untrue.

So basically, you agree that you're making a broad generalization about a certain nation. It's good to know that one can walk around the streets of Vienna, and proudly proclaim himself as a racist. You know, like in the old times.

[Comrade Tribune]

Originally posted by Azazel

So basically, you agree that you're making a broad generalization about a certain nation. It's good to know that one can walk around the streets of Vienna, and proudly proclaim himself as a racist. You know, like in the old times.

So you say there are *NO* privileged ethnic groups, anywhere in the world? Because everybody who says so is a racist? You really want to uphold that viewpoint?

[Az]

Nice try to change my question.

You've claimed that the jews are politically influetial, and have control of the government of the US, that is their, or to be more precise, our, "lackey".

By this, you've claimed that the jews possess an quality of some sort, each and every member of the nation. That is a generalization on a national/ethnic basis, also known as racism.

If you would like to point out that not each jew has that political influnce, but some sort of united political body that represents their interests, then you subscribe to tails of jewish global conspiracy ala The Protocols, which leaves you in the cold, too.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Azazel
you'd just like that to happen wouldn't you?

I can't believe he's still here.

[Comrade Tribune]

Originally posted by Azazel
Nice try to change my question.

You've claimed that the jews are politically influetial, and have control of the government of the US, that is their, or to be more precise, our, "lackey".

Quote?

*YOU* have certainly claimed that it is 'racism' to say that *any* national group may be privileged. Now you try to retreat, because this is simply too silly to uphold.

What you really want to say is that it is ok to say that privileged ethnic groups exist, because to deny *that* would be ridiculous, but the moment someone says Jews in the US fit that pattern, he is a racist.

[Az]

I've said that claiming the jews are politically influntial is racist.
The "jews being privileged" claim is just another blatant generalization on your part, though all I did say is that it combined with the other generalizations you make, puts you in a bad light.

However, since "jews are privileged" is just another nationality based generalization, and therefore, racist, I am willing to debate you on that, too.



EDITED : Crosspost.