Does the U.S. need to make a new global organization with like minded nations?

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Ned
Ah, come on! France is trying to coerce Turkey into not supporting the US by leaving it vulnerable to Saddam's WoMD.

This is craven.

Yes? And?

They're telling Turkey not to let the US use its bases for war. The choice is Turkey's.

NATO is not in the business of facilitating aggressive wars.

[Wezil]

Originally posted by Ned
Ah, come on! France is trying to coerce Turkey into not supporting the US by leaving it vulnerable to Saddam's WoMD.

This is craven.

Excuse me Ned, but the US is trying to coerce NATO by setting up a danger.

[Lancer]

The US is going to provide the stuff Turkey wants. Hell, it likely our stuff anyway, just assigned to NATO.

[KrazyHorse]

That's fine. And I still think that for appearance's sake, they should just have sent the stuff and made a speech about this not meaning support for the war, but merely being a humanitarian gesture yada yada yada

But they didn't violate the letter or the spirit of NATO in this, IMO

[Zkribbler]

I'm still trying to figure out who the like minded nations are.

Let's see, there's Bush's poodle Tony Blair. After that, it gets hard. I guess the Democratic Party on some issues. Maybe Israel.

[KrazyHorse]

You can always play with Lithuania and Denmark.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Zkribbler
I'm still trying to figure out who the like minded nations are.

This in itself is highly misleading.

The US is not a monolith - not 100% of the US people back the government's unprovoked aggression on Iraq.

[KrazyHorse]

I think you missed this, UR:

I guess the Democratic Party on some issues

[Ned]

Originally posted by Wezil


Excuse me Ned, but the US is trying to coerce NATO by setting up a danger.

Hah! The US is the danger, huh? This is almost like saying that Britain is the danger for defending Poland.

[KrazyHorse]

Snooze. Who is Iraq planning to invade, again?

[KrazyHorse]

It's not an aggressive war! It's a defensive war! A pre-emptive defensive war!

Does the doublethink ever hurt your head, Ned, or have you perfected duckspeak?

[Ned]

Frogger, be serious. This is exactly like Britain defending Poland, winning, and then insisting that Nazi Germany disarm.

The danger is Nazi Germany.

[KrazyHorse]

12 years later? You missed the boat. The war's over, and this is a new, aggressive war (independent of its justness).

God, your attempts to twist the situation to match your analogy are extreme.

[Ned]

Frogger, France and Britain failed to enforce Versailles and instead engaged in a pattern of appeasement about 16 years later.

This brand of weakness caused WWII.

[KrazyHorse]

Turkey has no reasonable fear of Iraq as is, unless Turket chooses to attack.

The more I talk to you, the more I'm inclined to actually side with the axis of weasel and say that if the US wants to start a war they should assume all responsibility for its consequences and leave us the hell out of it.