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    What was Achilles' nationality?

    This is inspired by Markos' insistence that Greeks didn't view Alexander's Macedonians as a separate nationality. R'lyeh, Athenians even viewed Spartans as a different nationality.
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    It's all greek to me.
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    • #3
      The Greeks are such sissys. He had to be a Turk.
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      • #4
        The Greeks are such sissys. He had to be a Turk.

        LOL.
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          He was American, obviously....

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          • #6
            Venezuelan.

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            • #7
              A little known fact.
              He was actually an Australian Aborigine.
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                  American:

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                    Re: What was Achilles' nationality?

                    Originally posted by St Leo
                    This is inspired by Markos' insistence that Greeks didn't view Alexander's Macedonians as a separate nationality. R'lyeh, Athenians even viewed Spartans as a different nationality.
                    The latter statement is misleading, the Athenians viewed the Spartans (and the Thebans, Corinthians, etc.) as non-Athenians, they certainly didn't view them as non-Greeks.

                    Both Plato and Aristotle recognise that there was a popular division between "Hellenes" and "Barbaroi"; the Macedonians are a hard case, but were regarded by most Greeks as foreigners. As far as I know the Macedonians didn't compete at the Olympic games which is for many people the distinguishing mark of the Hellenes.

                    Read Demosthenes anyway, he didn't like them bleedin' foreigners much....


                    The term "Hellenes" isn't even used in the Iliad (if I remember correctly). The terms used to describe Agamemnon, Menelaus and their allies were "Argives", "Danaans" and "Achaeans".

                    Interestingly, the historical evidence points to the Iliad being based on a factual Trojan war with the dispute arising over a piece of stolen religious statuary. I went to a really good guest lecture about this last year. The last I heard the "Greeks" in that war were most likely to have come from Rhodes. So if Achilles existed he was probably from there.
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                    • #11
                      Re: Re: What was Achilles' nationality?

                      Originally posted by Agathon

                      Read Demosthenes anyway, he didn't like them bleedin' foreigners much....

                      Well demosthenes had his own agenda...

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                      • #12
                        Re: Re: What was Achilles' nationality?

                        Originally posted by Agathon
                        As far as I know the Macedonians didn't compete at the Olympic games which is for many people the distinguishing mark of the Hellenes.
                        Alexandros I (498-454BC) , King of the Macedons took part in the Olympic games....
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                        • #13
                          He was a MACEDONIAN!
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                            Re: Re: Re: What was Achilles' nationality?

                            Originally posted by MarkG
                            Alexandros I (498-454BC) , King of the Macedons took part in the Olympic games....
                            (Alexander the Great was Alexander III)
                            Okey Doke - I didn't know that.

                            I guess I'll have to troll around for some evidence on the views of the other Greeks at the time.

                            It's looking pretty good for him if what you say is true.
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                              Did any Epirotes compete in the Olympic Games?
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