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I don't think Fisk is anti- American.
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EVERYTHING I have ever read of his has had an Anti-American perspective. Plus, I have never read anything of his that says anything postive about America.Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
I don't think Fisk is anti- American.
Maybe you have read more of his stuff than I have... but, I've read a lot of his writings.Keep on Civin'
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I do believe that the situation in Afghanistan could be turned around but it requires a 5 to 10 year commitment that seems to be being lost in the rush to Iraq.
What is the basis for your "seems"? We are to keep ~9,000 troops in Afghanistan indefinitely, the same amount as we've ever had on the ground. In each of '03 and '04 we are spending $625 million in assistance, just as we said we would.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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I am a cynic. I agree that the troops and money will be in Afghanistan for the next 12 to 18 months. After that Afghanistan won't be news, there will be other countries/situations needing aid and there may be a new US president with other priorities.Originally posted by DanS
I do believe that the situation in Afghanistan could be turned around but it requires a 5 to 10 year commitment that seems to be being lost in the rush to Iraq.
What is the basis for your "seems"? We are to keep ~9,000 troops in Afghanistan indefinitely, the same amount as we've ever had on the ground. In each of '03 and '04 we are spending $625 million in assistance, just as we said we would.
Time will tell.Never give an AI an even break.Comment
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... ah fuggit.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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the majestically conservative Wall Street Journal – normally a beacon of imperial and Israeli policy in the Middle East and South-west Asia
When the Secretary of State held up Iraq's support for the Palestinian Hamas organisation, which has an office in Baghdad, as proof of Saddam's support for "terror'' – there was, of course, no mention of America's support for Israel and its occupation of Palestinian land
Unbiased, objective source?
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I've read enough Fisk to know that he's rabidly anti-American (The Guardian, for instance, just loves him). Like Ming says, that doesn't make him wrong, it just means he has an agenda to push, and you should know that when reading his work.
He's also, as Ming says, very pro-Palestinian (The Lebanon Star carries articles by him all the time. Every single one of them is anti-US/anti-Israel). Again, that doesn't make him wrong, just biased.
Know your source, Horse. If one of the US uberpatriots showed up and posted a bunch of stuff from say... the Washington Times (known right-wing nutjobs), you would react with a strong dose of skepticism. Same as I do with Fisk. If you've read one of his articles... you've read them all.
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Imran:
The WSJ is conservative, is it not?
It often has a pompous, preachy style, has it not?
the "no mention of America's support for Israel and its occupation of Palestinian land" was a jibe that should have fitted in another place, ok.
But he's just spicing up his writing style a bit. Does that really come across as anti-american or biased, compared to the the excessively boring style of US media?“Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)Comment
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Taking the place can be done, holding it cannot. Afghanistan has the potential for being another Vietnam, if we don't have the sense to leave. That said, we can always take the place again, and by so doing keep the terrorists off balance and away from our skyscrapers. Rebuilding the place is like rebuilding South Central LA. Just fuel for the next fire...
The difference between Vietnam/Afghanistan and Iraq, AH, is one you know I'm sure...
Terrain, terrain, terrain!
We can hold Iraq forever if we need to.Long time member @ Apolyton
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"WE WOULD RATHER DO BUSINESS WITH 1000 AL QUAEDA TERRORISTS THAN WITH A SINGLE AMERICAN"
This sign was prominently displayed in the window of a business in Philadelphia.
You are probably outraged at the thought of such an inflammatory statement.
One would think that anti-hate groups from all
across the country would be marching on this business... And that the National Guard might have to be called to keep the angry crowds back.
But, perhaps in these stressful times one might be tempted to let the proprietors simply make their statement . . . We are a society who holds Freedom of
Speech as perhaps our greatest liberty . . . And after all, it is just a sign.
You may ask what kind of business would dare post such a sign?
A FUNERAL HOME
And just who said morticians have no sense of humor
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Where am I Horsie?
Laughing at this silly troll!
It seems YOU may have forgotten, but my old unit is still making life impossible for ol one eye's boys.
Try being a rebel there, and see how long you last!
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i'm an ignorant greek...MarkGComment
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"Spicing up his writing style?"Originally posted by HershOstropoler
But he's just spicing up his writing style a bit. Does that really come across as anti-american or biased, compared to the the excessively boring style of US media? Yeah, it comes across as biased... it's blatantly biased.
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I support afghans growing poppies for drugs.
But the country is a wasteland, they may as well have a national resource to get back on their feet. They can't do it without drugs.Comment
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I've seen Apolytoners support some pretty stupid things, but that post just beat em all. Dissident, You have brought stupid to a whole new level.Long time member @ Apolyton
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Regarding renewed poppy production in Afghanistan, it's *not* because America and her allies aren't trying to stop it.
Indeed, the U.S. Agriculture Department (hmm ... I think that's the fed bureaucracy involved with this) has been trying to get Afghan farmers to grow crops, instead of poppies. To this end, there's been expertise offered and millions upon millions of dollars appropriated to "tempt" the Afghan farmers to grow something else (i.e. we're paying them *not* to grow poppies). Unfortunately, an on-going drought and good prices for poppies are twin barriers to progress on this issue. That, I believe, is why poppy production has gone up since the fall of the Taliban.
That, plus the fact that farmers likely won't be killed or maimed now if caught growing poppies. After all, the Taliban are pretty much out of power.
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