A Typical Night of Left Wing Bias From 60 Minutes

[Berzerker]

Tonight - de-regulation of power in Montana, very very bad; federal shell case fingerprinting, very very good.

But the problem in Montana resulted from the lack of laws protecting the owners - stockholders - from their own thieving employees and "advisors" like Goldman Sachs, not de-regulation. The board of Montana Power and Goldman Sachs made millions by selling off assets after de-regulation increased their value while the stockholders were intentionally kept out of the loop about what was going on.

And as the NRA pointed out, shell case fingerprinting can easily be foiled in a few minutes by filing down several parts of the gun to alter the fingerprint. A federal program for creating a database of guns (and their owners) will only create another black market of people employed to alter these guns after sold from dealers.

[KrazyHorse]

Why do I imagine you foaming at the mouth and crushing the remote in your hands while you watched it?

[Asher]

While I was watching the story on South/North Korea I was thinking it was blatantly right wing.

[asleepathewheel]

Re: A Typical Night of Left Wing Bias From 60 Minutes

Originally posted by Berzerker
A federal program for creating a database of guns (and their owners) will only create another black market of people employed to alter these guns after sold from dealers.

Job creation

[DuncanK]

Sounds like some good informative TV. Thanks for the heads up here on the West Coast.

[DuncanK]

Man, lack of laws protecting the owners. Damn that's rich. Good one Berserker.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Well there are, Duncan. Shareholders get the shaft.

[Dinner]

The existing serial numbers on guns can also be filed off. Does that mean we should stop putting serial numbers on guns? Of course not.

Shell casing finger printing will solve many many crimes just like barrel finger printing would and serial number tracing already has.

[Urban Ranger]

Berzerker,

It just happens that a bunch of experts - IEEE Fellows to be specific - disagrees with you. They think deregulation in that sector is Bad.

[Asher]

(Honest question)
Do the Electrical Engineers actually do much of anything regarding the power grid?

I was under the impression they were mostly circuit designer type people, and creating standards...

[Dinner]

Power deregulation would be great for consumers as long as a neutral thrid party controled the distribushion lines. Also there would have to be a strong watch dog agency to prevent greedy a-holes from manipulating the market the way Enron did in California.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Asher
(Honest question)
Do the Electrical Engineers actually do much of anything regarding the power grid?

I was under the impression they were mostly circuit designer type people, and creating standards...

Engineers do get promoted into management.

[Berzerker]

Frogger -

Why do I imagine you foaming at the mouth and crushing the remote in your hands while you watched it?

Hard to say, maybe a one track imagination? I'm constantly amused by the bias put out by these supposedly unbiased "journalists".

Asher -

While I was watching the story on South/North Korea I was thinking it was blatantly right wing.

How so?

Duncan -

Man, lack of laws protecting the owners. Damn that's rich. Good one Berserker.

When a law prohibits me from stealing your money except when you're a stockholder, I'd call that a lack of laws protecting your property rights.

Oerdin -

The existing serial numbers on guns can also be filed off. Does that mean we should stop putting serial numbers on guns? Of course not.

Will the innocent be put in jail by mis-identifying filed off serial numbers? That can happen with fingerprinting, you know. I commit murder with an altered gun and instead of using the fingerprint to catch me, people with guns showing similar fingerprints in the database become suspects. As to your question, the only viable reason for serial numbers is for manufacturers and consumers to have the means of identifying their guns with regard to warranties and ownership rights. Not creating a federal database so government knows who has the guns, NYC created such a database and then later used it to confiscate guns.

Shell casing finger printing will solve many many crimes just like barrel finger printing would and serial number tracing already has.

Shell case and barrel fingerprinting are used now to solve crimes without a database and serial numbers merely take advantage of a practice employed by manufacturers for the benefit of manufacturers and consumers.

UR -

It just happens that a bunch of experts - IEEE Fellows to be specific - disagrees with you. They think deregulation in that sector is Bad.

Gee, how can I argue with that? Oh yeah, I disagree with them, de-regulation is good.

[Urban Ranger]

Power generation is a natural monopoly, or at least it leads to cartels. It takes truckloads of $ to start a power company.

[Sheik]

And as the NRA pointed out, shell case fingerprinting can easily be foiled in a few minutes by filing down several parts of the gun to alter the fingerprint. A federal program for creating a database of guns (and their owners) will only create another black market of people employed to alter these guns after sold from dealers.

And as the other guy pointed out you can put on gloves to prevent showing your fingerprints but we still have a lot of criminals that don't do it.


On another note do you guys that feel that if the United States was to leave Korea the North would attack the South? If so how long do you think it would take?