Anti-War Signs

[Drake Tungsten]

See, Paiktis? Someone else thinks its a boy...

OT, I might take the anti-war crowd more seriously if they put as much thought and effort into understanding the issues as they did in making catchy slogans.

[Bereta_Eder]

Because he misread my post.
Not out of the blue like you did... Freudian slip!

[Pekka]

yep, because of misread post. I wouldn't take that for a man? What's wrong with you Drake

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
OT, I might take the anti-war crowd more seriously if they put as much thought and effort into understanding the issues as they did in making catchy slogans.

And what makes you think they don't?

[Ramo]

I might take the anti-war crowd more seriously if they put as much thought and effort into understanding the issues as they did in making catchy slogans.

I might take the pro-war crowd seriously if they put *any* thought in the post-Saddam situation.

[Sava]

I might take the pro-war crowd seriously if they thought, period.

[Buck Birdseed]

That was never the motivation for the Pro-War crowd, surely. Thought, I mean. They just want to get an adrenalin kick. Yee-haw! Testosterone!

[Az]

I liked the "If you can't pronounce it, don't bomb it"

George Carlin said that US policy has always been to bomb anybody we think has bigger ****s than we do.

I remember that monologue about missiles and penises. That wasn't what he said.


erm, Buck, what?

[Drake Tungsten]

And what makes you think they don't?

What's the anti-war crowd's solution to the problem posed by Iraq? How do they propose we stop the spread of WMD's? How do they plan on democratizing the Middle East and defeating Islamic fundamentalism?

Real answers to these question would make me respect the anti-war crowd a hell of a lot more, but all we get from them is stupid slogans...

I might take the pro-war crowd seriously if they put *any* thought in the post-Saddam situation.

What makes you think they haven't? It's my major concern with the war as well, but there have been indications that the adminstration has planned for a post-war Iraq.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
What's the anti-war crowd's solution to the problem posed by Iraq?

Containment.

How do they propose we stop the spread of WMD's?

How does invading Iraq accomplish that?

How do they plan on democratizing the Middle East

That's not very high on my list of priorities when it comes to sends troops into action.

and defeating Islamic fundamentalism?

How does invading a secular country accomplish that?

[Az]

devil's advocate or anti-war?

[Ramo]

What makes you think they haven't?

For instance, the whole lack of dialogue on this issue in the public discourse. Hawks cleary don't have an answer, and for the few that do, either it's not grounded in reality or they don't give a **** about the Iraqi people.

It's my major concern with the war as well, but there have been indications that the adminstration has planned for a post-war Iraq.

I'm sured Shrub et al. have planned something. But that doesn't mean that it's well thought-out or the plan is morally acceptable.

[Dinner]

It would be interesting to see the anti war groups come up with a comprehensive and realistic bunch of policies that would solve the issue of WoMD without resorting to war.

Of course I doubt they will because it is very easy to find fault with other people and very difficult to come up with real solutions to real problems.

[orange]

Originally posted by uh Clem


paiktis22, the truth is, we're ALL like this. That jingoistic flag-waving stuff is just a troll for the Europeans. Nobody here takes it seriously.

Take Lancer, for instance; he's actually a speechwriter for Noam Chomsky. Bet you didn't know that. And Slowwhand is co-chair of the state Green Party in Texas. Last I heard, lord of the mark was collaborating with Howard Zinn on a new edition of People's History of the United States.

Fact is, I'm probably the most conservative person around here.

Honest.

This was a great ****ing post.

[Drake Tungsten]

Containment.

Containment isn't a solution; it just pushes resolution of the issue off until a later date.

How does invading Iraq accomplish that?

One less country actively seeking nuclear weapons...

That's not very high on my list of priorities when it comes to sends troops into action.

If you want to win the war on terror, it should be your number one priority.

How does invading a secular country accomplish that?

Iraq is the Arab nation most likely to be receptive to democratic government, due to its secular nature and educated populace. It's the best place to introduce democracy to the Middle East to serve as an alternative to Islamic fundamentalism.