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  • #76
    Originally posted by Velociryx
    Ned: Did I just see you bash the great bastion of the age? Containment doesn't work?! What, are you insane?!

    Sorry...couldn't resist, and a good analogy.

    Yep....one day, we will, no doubt, go the way of the dinosaur.

    But not today....

    -=Vel=-
    Yeah, Augustus and Hadrian were the first apostles of containment.

    See what it got them.
    http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Tassadar5000


      I dont live in Russia anymore, though friends in Russia are saying that "everyone they know" supports N. Korea and S. Korea having nukes as to deter any possible future war between the two, though they dont like N. Korea having nukes alone.
      Don't forget that Japan will have to get them as well. Does this affect the Russian view?
      http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Ned
        So, is the average Russian better educated or just smarter than the average American?
        I get that impression, yes. The averege Russian is also much nicer than the averege American. Especially New Yorkers. I get the sense that NYkers are very disturbed people......
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        • #79
          Originally posted by Ned


          Don't forget that Japan will have to get them as well. Does this affect the Russian view?
          I dunno, though personally I think Japan will develop it on its own someday soon. No US help (or very little) will be required.
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          • #80
            Ned: Indeed! Never have been a fan of containment, never will be. The only time it was even remotely successful was when Democratic and Communistic ideologies were struggling for dominance, but since it seems that issue has been decided, down with all thoughts of containment. Bah! IF we use it at all, let's make d@mned sure it's a short term solution till we can get a long term resolution!

            Tass: Yeah....let's give EVERYBODY nukes! That's the ultimate deterrent, right? (EDIT: And he says Americans have foolish ideas!)



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            • #81
              Originally posted by Velociryx
              Tass: Yeah....let's give EVERYBODY nukes! That's the ultimate deterrent, right? (EDIT: And he says Americans have foolish ideas!)



              -=Vel=-
              Um....I dont recall saying this
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              • #82
                Not in so many words, you didn't...that's true, but hey! If it works for NK and SK, the principle should hold, true?

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Velociryx
                  Not in so many words, you didn't...that's true, but hey! If it works for NK and SK, the principle should hold, true?

                  -=Vel=-
                  Argh. Not always.
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                  • #84
                    Somehow, Tassadar, I think Putin will help the US, Japan and South Korea to pressure NK into stopping with its weapons program.

                    The key is China. If everyone presents a united front, NK's bluster will be muted. Today they still believe they are immune from an US attack because of China - and they are right.
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                    • #85
                      I know, was just messin' with you....

                      -=Vel=-
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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Velociryx
                        I know, was just messin' with you....

                        -=Vel=-
                        Ned is right, and I hate you
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                        • #87
                          Ned, I agree again! Dang, I used to be so....liberal....what's going on here?

                          And Tass...Nahhhh.....you love it!

                          -=Vel=-
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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Velociryx
                            And Tass...Nahhhh.....you love it!

                            -=Vel=-
                            I may love it but I hate you!

                            Edit: Corrected a rather nasty Mistake
                            Last edited by Nubclear; February 7, 2003, 23:09.
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                            • #89


                              Tass, you rock!

                              -=Vel=-
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                              • #90
                                "The Barbarians are to the Roman empire as the terrorists to the US" is a very good analogy, unfortunately. If the analogy goes through, we should expect a new Dark Age upon the downfall of the US.
                                Freedom is just unawareness of being manipulated.

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