Michael Jackson continues to spiral to madness.....

[Sava]

Allowing a child molestor to ruin the lives of his own children is the right thing to do because "who are we to judge people"...

[NeOmega]

Originally posted by Sava
Allowing a child molestor to ruin the lives of his own children is the right thing to do because "who are we to judge people"...

So true.... but Michael Jackson has never even come close to being proven a child molester. He is as much a child molester as you are, in the eyes of the law.

Now, if you have seen Michael Jackson molest a child then perhaps your classification of him as such could be credible. You are simply making a bombastic statement, with no proof, not even any evidence.

Question for you Sava..... Have you ever even seen Michael Jackson? Been to his house, talked to him, talked to any of the children who have spent time with him? Do you know anything about him except that which you have read?

Then, I ask again.... Who are you to judge?

[Sava]

Nope, I've only read the public statements given by a child he molested in the early 90's. BTW, he pays the families millions of dollars to keep quiet. It's so easy to stick your head in the sand, eh?

And sorry, if you molest children, I'm gonna judge you. Call me crazy, but I do have some morals.

[NeOmega]

What public statements?Are they credible, or was perhaps money a motive. I don't remember any explicit public statements besides he molested my son....

[NeOmega]

BTW, he pays the families millions of dollars to keep quiet.

Hmm... so the families took money over getting a dangerous molester off the streets.... or perhaps the familiy got what they were after tin the first place......

And I hate to repeat myself, but do you know how easy it is to get a child to say anything you want him or her too?

[Sava]

I don't know about you, but if somebody makes innaccurate, libelous statements about me, I fight it. I don't pay them off.

Well, NeOmega, others in this thread have been informed about Michael Jackson and his problems since the early 90's. Perhaps if you were privy to this information, you'd understand.

It's possible his accusers were all lying. But as I suggested before, do you pay off people lying about serious charges like that?

[mrmitchell]

Hrm. Wasn't Michael Jackson the guy that started life as a black guy and ended it as a white girl? I can't remember real well.

However, my neurons do connect "Michael Jackson" with "looney tunes" BTW.

[NeOmega]

Originally posted by Sava

Well, NeOmega, others in this thread have been informed about Michael Jackson and his problems since the early 90's. Perhaps if you were privy to this information, you'd understand.

It's possible his accusers were all lying. But as I suggested before, do you pay off people lying about serious charges like that?

Most lawsuits are settled out of court, it is cheaper that way.

If you saw Michael Jackson's interview, you would see he is embarrased even to say F uck, the crowd was chanting "**** the press, Michael Jackson is the best", and the reporter asked him, what are they saying, and Jackson replied "they are saying "F" the press Michael Jackson is the best" He was quoting it like a school boy, getting all embarrased about coming close to saying the word F uck.

I don't think he could possibly stand to go to court and listen or testify with words such as penis, anus, vagina, scrotum, ejaculate... etc etc etc.

I don't know about you, but if somebody makes innaccurate, libelous statements about me, I fight it. I don't pay them off.

When has this ever even happened to you?
You have never even been in this situation, much less had the money to pay anyone off. Court isn't proof of innocence, its a spectacle.

[Sava]

Well, I'm glad to hear that you're having success as the president of the Michael Jackson fan club...

[MOBIUS]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
Yes. At least Jackson doesn't go around preaching hate.

Yeah, I think the point here is MJ preaches the love of young children...

[MOBIUS]

Originally posted by NeOmega
Question for you Sava..... Have you ever even seen Michael Jackson? Been to his house, talked to him, talked to any of the children who have spent time with him? Do you know anything about him except that which you have read?

Then, I ask again.... Who are you to judge?

No, but purely from seeing what he's done in the last few months - dangling a baby over a balcony, and manically rocking a baby on his knee while bottle feeding it - those are two separate incidents which would have me never having my child anywhere near him!

That's not even talking about the way he was holding the hand of that boy on the interview like a lovesick puppy...

Really, I want to ask the MJ defenders here to think long and hard - would YOU trust him with your child overnight at Neverland behind closed doors?

[NeOmega]

YOu are judging him on the negative press you have read about him.

If you had read the entire thread I listed a variety of people I would choose Michael Jackson over to raise my children.

So what if he was nervously trying to bottlefeed his baby.

Psychology story.

Normal man thrown in an insane Asylum.
Doctors observe him, he sits ata a table, and begins to nervously play and fold over and over again a pice of gum foil wrapper.
Obviously a paranoid obsessive/compulsive type.


No, just peopel reading too much into a silly action which means nothing.

How would you like for people to have a camera in your face every day of your life?

Jackson knew the camera was going to judge him. Babies can start crying and whining about anything. Jackson was nervous because he wanted to look good for the camera. He actually succeeded in keeping the baby from crying, even though it had it's face covered to keep it from being hunted by paparazzi jackals.

Every action you do, every move you take, people try to interperet as a definition of who you are, whether you are crazy or not, good or evil?

He was holding the hand of the boy like a dear friend, who almost lost his life to cancer, and Michael Jackson provided him with the friendship of a mega star. Michael Jackson himself, who has millions of people watching his every move, took out special time to care for "Gavin", just some boy who may have died with only his parents and family to care he ever existed at age 10.

Not in a publicity stunt, but actually took days of his life, maybe even months, to tell that one boy he cared.

Michael Jackson is a good man, hes a little bit different and loony, but in the end, he's a good man.

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Xuenay
Gibsie: Assuming that both enjoy it, the term "victimless crime" would be more appropriate.

Well, almost victimless, except for the child whose life will be turned inside out. Either you are a troll, or seriously fvcked up. Perhaps both. Do your views expressed here come from experience? Try to do some research that is not entirely based on NAMBLA's website. I know a lot of ex-children who were seriously damaged by thinking such as yours.

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by Xuenay

And, even though I'll probably get flamed for this, I'd like to point out that even having sex with children isn't automatically bad. It all depends on how the kids take it - it's not completely impossible that the kids would enjoy it at least a bit also, you know.

Flamed for this? You bet!!! My only regret is that I wasn't the first to get around to it. Having sex with a child will twist his/her mind. It will alter his/her perception of people, particularily his/her ability to trust. To make matters worse it becomes a terrible dark secret that burdens his/her mind for the rest of his/her life. You have no idea. I do.

Enjoy? I have at times been called to examine a child's genitalia, either to examine a rash or defect, or to look for signs of abuse. I'm generally well received by kids, but I've never encountered a child who is comfortable with the handling of his/her genitals. Kids don't have quite the same perception of stimulation of their genital areas. Things that an adult would find pleasent hurt them.
Having sex with a child is automatically bad.

[Dis]

What do you think of the parents that pimp their children out to Michael Jackson?

How can they do this? I get the impression that they are willing to have Michael Jackson molest their children in exchange for millions of dollars.

The parents are pimping their children. Plain and simple.