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  • #16
    Continuing lack of evidence from the SETI program might also suggest that alien's don't exist.
    If I'm posting here then Counterglow must be down.

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    • #17
      True but that's just an awful waste of space.
      Exult in your existence, because that very process has blundered unwittingly on its own negation. Only a small, local negation, to be sure: only one species, and only a minority of that species; but there lies hope. [...] Stand tall, Bipedal Ape. The shark may outswim you, the cheetah outrun you, the swift outfly you, the capuchin outclimb you, the elephant outpower you, the redwood outlast you. But you have the biggest gifts of all: the gift of understanding the ruthlessly cruel process that gave us all existence [and the] gift of revulsion against its implications.
      -Richard Dawkins

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      • #18
        Tass, if you want a specific answer, could you care to define your exact concept of "Alien"?
        Thanks in advance.

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        • #19
          Well, either intelligent aliens capable of visiting us don't exist and it is up to the human race to find a way off this mudball before an asteroid strike or other catastrophy makes us extinct or..

          Anyone (or thing) intelligent enough to figure out how to get here from another star system is going to take one look at what humans do to each other and want to come down and say hello.

          Pessimist? Me? Noooo.
          Never give an AI an even break.

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          • #20
            Yep....and a lot of them hang out on 'poly (me included....one of the most refreshing spots in this sector....now if you'll excuse me, I've gotta go back and check my CF-Drive....we're exploring Beta Sector next month, and....)

            -=Vel=-

            PS: Serious answer...yes, I believe life exists "out there." It is arrogance of the highest order to assume that in all the vastness of space, we are the only ones, and not terribly different from the various religions here on earth, each saying they're "right" and everybody else is gonna burn. Of course, given our history, that position is not too surprising.
            The list of published books grows. If you're curious to see what sort of stories I weave out, head to Amazon.com and do an author search for "Christopher Hartpence." Help support Candle'Bre, a game created by gamers FOR gamers. All proceeds from my published works go directly to the project.

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            • #21
              Continuing lack of evidence from the SETI programme points to one of three conclusions. In our local area of space, ie the area our electromagnetic transmissions have moved through:

              1) We are either so hopelessly behind other civilisations that they take no interest in us.

              2) We are the most advanced society locally and everyone else is still struggling with fire.

              3) We are alone locally and other civilisations are just beyond our broadcast radius and have yet to intercept our transmissions or us their's.
              Umm... isn't the space a bit too large for drawing conclusions yet?

              I mean, IIRC, there's 8k light years to the 'center' of Milky Way isn't, there?

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              • #22
                Yes, there are millions of other alien species out there in the universe.

                I doubt, however, we will ever have substantial contact with any of them. The barriers of space travel and the huge distances involved seem to me almost insurmountable.

                Switch: The odds aren't as bad as you imply. If one does research into Creationist "calculations" (term used very loosely), then yes. But actual scientists have come up with various odss that show the likelihood to be far greater. Considering our galaxy alone has 100 billion stars, the odds of sentient life existing elsewhere in a universe of 125 billion galaxies are pretty good.
                Tutto nel mondo è burla

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                • #23
                  dp

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                  • #24
                    life is INCREDIBLY complex. Even basic life.
                    Basic life, or basic life as we know it?

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                    • #25
                      Exactly Boris. Even if the probablity of other sentient life living around any given Star is a Thousand-Billion to One then there should be some out there.

                      However, if you believe that God created all life and only created sentient life on Earth, then those probabilities mean nothing. It's not a theory that has any basis in fact, of course, but then no kind of faith in anything ever does.
                      If I'm posting here then Counterglow must be down.

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                      • #26
                        'morning Stoo! You didn't know I'm an alien?

                        -=Vel=-
                        The list of published books grows. If you're curious to see what sort of stories I weave out, head to Amazon.com and do an author search for "Christopher Hartpence." Help support Candle'Bre, a game created by gamers FOR gamers. All proceeds from my published works go directly to the project.

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                        • #27
                          I've known that for a year now, mate.

                          As a matter of fact, I'm currently in negotiations with the National Enquirer for the exclusive rights to the blurred, grainy, indistinct black and white pictures I have of you.
                          If I'm posting here then Counterglow must be down.

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                          • #28




                            -=Vel=-
                            The list of published books grows. If you're curious to see what sort of stories I weave out, head to Amazon.com and do an author search for "Christopher Hartpence." Help support Candle'Bre, a game created by gamers FOR gamers. All proceeds from my published works go directly to the project.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by FrustratedPoet
                              However, if you believe that God created all life and only created sentient life on Earth, then those probabilities mean nothing. It's not a theory that has any basis in fact, of course, but then no kind of faith in anything ever does.
                              It baffles me why a Christian would assert God created such a vast universe and only made Earth have intelligent life. Why would God be so wasteful? What would be the point? This is just senseless terra-centrism. It even makes a reference in the Bible to God's "other flocks," which can reasonably be interpreted as beings from other worlds.
                              Tutto nel mondo è burla

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                              • #30
                                (quickly re-discovering that 'poly's OT forum is a huge time-sink...LOL....enjoyable, but I'm keeping the window open here and trying to work on Candle'Bre art....guess which is winning out!)

                                -=Vel=-
                                The list of published books grows. If you're curious to see what sort of stories I weave out, head to Amazon.com and do an author search for "Christopher Hartpence." Help support Candle'Bre, a game created by gamers FOR gamers. All proceeds from my published works go directly to the project.

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