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**Wernazuma III** · February 1, 2003, 18:16

And Pekka: I doubt that the reason why France and Germany or the vast majority of supporters of the peace movement or even muslims who oppose the war do it because Saddam has won their hearts. I couldn't care less for theat scumbag who once dumped tons of nerve gas on his own population. There's other reasons to oppose the attack without having to like Saddam (but it doesn't belong in this thread).

**Boris Godunov** · February 1, 2003, 19:06

Originally posted by MrFun
Chegitz -- I'm just stating that based on past patterns of behavior of Palestinian extremists -- not all Palestinians -- that today is probably another party for such evil extremists.

As for Iraqi extremists -- I'm not surprised they're twisting this tragedy around, to endorse it as some kind of anti-Western message from God.

Considering our discussions over gay rights issues, I'm pretty surprised to see you justifying things based on "past patterns of behavior." You're being hypocritical.

**GePap** · February 1, 2003, 19:17

So at this point, there is 0 evidence of any public sentiment of happiness for the loss of Columbia in the Occupied territories (regardless of Siro "knowing" there must be some private affairs...) while the government of Iraq stated it was an Omen by God against the US.

Anyone really at all surprised by Iraq's move? We are going to invade and overthrow this government in a few weeks: why in Hell would they send us condolences? (also given the History of the Israeli astronaut being part of the Osirik raid of '81). Cause of some feeling of Human solidarity? PLEASE................

**Sirotnikov** · February 1, 2003, 19:55

Neither you nor I know anything of the sort.

regardless of Siro "knowing" there must be some private affairs...

oh come on.

Don't expect me to take you seriously when you ask me to presume that the leaders of Palestinian resistance organizations, Hamas, Jihad and Fatah, did not drink to the occassion.

**The Mad Monk** · February 1, 2003, 20:04

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
That article has to be a lie, Siro. The Iraqi government would never say such things; they are secular, after all.

Argue the point with Reuters:

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=BJKKZDZVFUFBACRBAELCFEY?type=worldNews&storyID=2152926

**MrFun** · February 1, 2003, 21:32

Originally posted by Boris Godunov

Considering our discussions over gay rights issues, I'm pretty surprised to see you justifying things based on "past patterns of behavior." You're being hypocritical.

I apologize for getting angry when Palestinian extremists and Iraqi extremists celebrate over human tragedies.

I don't see how I'm being hypocritical -- Palestinian extremists were overjoyed with the 9/11 disaster.

And, with gay rights issues in the past, I have often talked about how extreme fundamentalists use God and religion as weapons of hate -- well, Palestinian extremists are doing the same thing towards Americans and Israelies.

**Pekka** · February 1, 2003, 21:33

Wernazuma III, Correct, but acting like a jerk is not going to help at all. He should be playing mr nice guy right now if he was smart.

**Zero** · February 1, 2003, 21:50

Im just loving this thread.

**Boris Godunov** · February 1, 2003, 21:50

Originally posted by MrFun
I apologize for getting angry when Palestinian extremists and Iraqi extremists celebrate over human tragedies.

That's not what you're getting angry over. You yourself said you are angry over a presumption that some Palestinians were celebrating based on an as-yet unsubstantiated rumor. You then justified this presumption based on "past behavior" of Palestinians, which is 100% meaningless for proving the rumor true in this case.

I don't see how I'm being hypocritical -- Palestinian extremists were overjoyed with the 9/11 disaster.

You're being hypocritical because you are using a stereotype to justify anger over an occurence that is, as far as we know, fictional. That's no different than a, say, fundamentalist Christian homophobe painting gays as deviant perverts based on his "past experience" with some gays.

And, with gay rights issues in the past, I have often talked about how extreme fundamentalists use God and religion as weapons of hate -- well, Palestinian extremists are doing the same thing towards Americans and Israelies.

How about you indulging in some stereotpying of your own here thats feeding a racist rumor that isn't even shown to be true yet?

**Zero** · February 1, 2003, 22:02

Even if the entire arab population was celebrating ans shooting off fireworks.. why get mad?

**loinburger** · February 1, 2003, 22:07

I claim victory in debate, by virtue of the sheer weight of my rolleyes smilies.

"Yeah, sure, MrFun. Let's just all eat babies while we're at it."

**Zero** · February 1, 2003, 22:22

Nooo!~ I bow down to your infinite wisdom, Sir Loinburger. Your tactic to win the debate was just ingenious!

Calc, thinking... Why didn't I think of that?

EDIT: The synchronized mass eye rolling makes it even more cooler... dammit. Im... jealous.

**Zylka** · February 1, 2003, 22:24

Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
Equally, don't be surprised and struggling to restrain a smirk at the first "Exploding Columbia" joke you receive by e-mail or at work.

It's a tragedy. It's horrible- but that's all it is. Making a political point on it is just pissing on those poor sods graves.

BUT THATYS THE THING,D IDNT THEY HAVE NO GRAIVES BECAUSE TEHY BURNT UP IN THE ATMOSPHEERE!?!1? HAHAHAHA

Feigned idiocy on Laz' well put post. Approach with thought and respond with honesty!

**Zylka** · February 1, 2003, 22:27

...OR AM I?!?!

**Sirotnikov** · February 1, 2003, 22:29

Argue the point with Reuters:

He was being cynical.

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