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Originally posted by Zkribbler
I hate to spoil a really good threadjacking, but I've been surfing the news webpages & I can find no stories of any celebrations in Gaza City or elsewhere.(..)
I guess the person who said that was guessing...
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agree its a sad event, but its no worse a tragedy (in terms of human life) than a major traffic accident with several fatalities. What makes it so much worse as a tragedy?
Do you think the assassination of, say, JFK was no more a tragedy than any other death?
Some people become symbols - symbols of hope, of discovery, of peace, of heroism or of whatever. They are people who have earned that respect. Their deaths do become more widley mourned and, sometimes, become national tragedies.
The deaths today are not just seven random people who died. They were seven explorers, symbolising discovery and one of mankinds greatest scientific achievements. Their loss diminishes everyone of us who yearn to explore the universe, to seek out what there is to discover, to make scientific achievements that will better mankind. Their deaths are a tragedy to all mankind, particularily if governments are dissuaded from continuing their pursuits of exploring space.
Today, Israel lost one of it's heros. The US lost six of it's heros. And mankind has suffered a tragic setback on the road to the future.
"I read a book twice as fast as anybody else. First, I read the beginning, and then I read the ending, and then I start in the middle and read toward whatever end I like best." - Gracie Allen
More civilian Palestinians have died than civilian Israelis since the intifada begun.
panag, you have also heard the other side of the truth (your side) from me, so you know I'm not completely ignorant on the subject.
But when someone says "hey the Pals are celebratins" and then a bunch of people say "ewwww how grose" and keep doing it, it maybe needs an answer. Just as if Hamas would say they "fight for liberation of their people" would need an appropriate answer too.
BTW I'll go to Israel this summer if all goes well since I have promised my Grandmother to take her to the Holy Grounds.
And damnit! Why do we still use 22 years old shuttles?! Who cancelled the X-38?
People don't care about space since the Russians quit their half of the space race. The moon was the thing... now no one cares- they think we should spend all our money on welfare and on improving earth (yeah right) (no one ever solves the poverty problem) and anyways the poor people can usually claw their way out if money is being spent on JOBS- and not welfare/etc.!!!!! As long at the poor people care... which many don';t... and as long as money isn't wasted on rehabilitating drug-addicts- who can't be rehabilitated anyway- just kill them and be done with it.
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Originally posted by faded glory
I feel bad for Israeli's. FYI this was there first space flight ever.
Actually, they've launched 4(?) satellites. This was, however, the first flight of an Israeli Astronaut.
"I read a book twice as fast as anybody else. First, I read the beginning, and then I read the ending, and then I start in the middle and read toward whatever end I like best." - Gracie Allen
Anybody from Texas? I've got some family there and would like to know if they've been told something else than not touching the fallen pieces...
I'm really sad with the news
panag: The VentureStar has been killed since '00. The new engine wasn't working as hoped, among other things.
Its a serious point. Tell me why the death of 7 astronauts is a bigger tragedy in terms of human life than 7 fatalities in a traffic smash up.
Big Crunch: Yes, in terms of human life. Your point is a good one, since overstressing a tragedy like this makes the program run in fits and starts. 1/60 chance of death in human space flight has to be an accepted risk by all sides.
Even then, though, this is not totally in terms of human life. As said above, the shuttle has always been a symbol.
I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891
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