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  • Minority vs minority?

    There seems to be a worrying amount of antagonism directed between different minorities in the United Kingdom, especially the afro-carribean population towards the homosexual populace.

    There seem to be a rising number of attacks directed at gay citizens (or those percieved to be gay), both physically and verbally, from both black people on the street and in the black music industry.

    Though this is definently not the case for the majority of afro-carribeans, why is black culture and music becoming more homophobic. Homosexual protestors outside the black music (edit: mobo) awards, angry at lyrics expressed by artists such as DJ Beenie Man were beaten by afro-carribean men.

    It's a shame that two opressed minorities cannot share a cammon cause (the are a number of black homosexuals who have a lot of difficulty). Jamaican homosexuals often seek aslyum in the UK because there is such hatred towards sexual minorities homosexuals are regularly stoned and beaten to death, with the government doing nothing to help.

    There are black artists who have expressed concern at those calling for the execution of gay men (Ms Dynamite being one I believe), but is there something about black (or most notably, Jamaican) culture that is inherently homophobic? It doesn't seem right that these artists are free to call for the slaughter of homosexuals, yet were you to say the same thing about racial minorites you'd be in a lot of trouble (please note that I do not condone racial hatred).

    What do you think?

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    • #3
      I guess I can also ask why there are gays and lesbians who have no respect for bisexuals.

      I'm gay and I respect bisexuals.
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      • #4
        That's true as well - I've met many biphobic people, gay and straight, which doesn't make sense. The guy I had a date with earliuer this week was quite biphobic.

        I've never understood it.

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        • #5
          I think I understand part of it.

          Gays and lesbians knock bisexuals by claiming that bisexuals just cannot make up their minds, and that bisexuality is a temporary "phase."

          All that, in my opinion, is bullocks.
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          • #6
            I don't like lesbians! I'm weird!
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            • #7
              Most of the inter racial conflict in San Antonio is between African Americans and Hispannics.
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              • #8
                So whites, just lay back, relax, and enjoy the show?

                Some cultures just don't lose the close-minded attitude.
                Just like the ultraorthodox jews, and the muslims.
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                • #9
                  Weak social groups antagonising each other is one of the main reasons why I think Socialism's linear idea of conflict is bollocks. More power to the working class might be directly bad for women or homosexuals, it's not all interlinked.

                  Oh, and I'm bisexual and listen to loads of Dancehall music about killing homosexuals. Does this make me a bad person?
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                  • #10
                    Hey Snapcase, answer my PM!
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by MrFun
                      I think I understand part of it.

                      Gays and lesbians knock bisexuals by claiming that bisexuals just cannot make up their minds, and that bisexuality is a temporary "phase."

                      All that, in my opinion, is bullocks.
                      I agree, but if I recall correctly you said you wouldn't want to date a bisexual person a long time ago...
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Azazel
                        So whites, just lay back, relax, and enjoy the show?

                        Some cultures just don't lose the close-minded attitude.
                        Just like the ultraorthodox jews, and the muslims.
                        Wait, so Jews have to be ultra-orthodox to be close minded and muslims in general are close minded? Perhaps you mean "unorthodox jews and muslims" not "unorthodox jews, and the muslims"? Actually I suck at grammar so dont listen to me.

                        Unless you meant the way I understood it
                        :-p

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                        • #13
                          Jews can be atheists. muslims cannot, by definition.
                          urgh.NSFW

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                          • #14
                            Macho cultures tend to be extremely anti-homosexual. It challenges traditional male role and authority.

                            Minority groups are also part of the culture which discriminates against them, and they pick up the prejudices of the popular culture. In the US, Blacks and Hispanics are fighting to be 2nd dog. As Islam spreads in the Black community, anti-Semitism has increased (which is sad considering that the Jewish community supported civil rights the strongest out of the entire white community). Everybody hates homosexuals, and homosexual have some extremely disturbing prejudices as well. I've probably heard more ignorant racist crap from gay men . . .
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Azazel
                              Jews can be atheists. muslims cannot, by definition.
                              Have you never heard of "secular Islam?"
                              Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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