Who's Nukes should we worry about?

[Zylka]

(I guess a nation needs uranium mines to transfer nukes to another, now!)

Oh darling, you're not fun enough! This thread looked so good with our special matching outfits...

[Sava]

Let me elaborate for some of our slower Apolytoners ... USA builds nukes, gives them to France who passes them on to Israel. And I'm sure with the billions of dollars of arms the US has given to Israel, there must be a few nukes there.

[KrazyHorse]

Uh huh. The US builds nukes for the French? First I'd heard of it.

I don't think there are many uranium mines in France...

How many do you think there are in the US?

You get your uranium from Africa and Canada, IIRC...

[Sava]

Probably not anymore... the point being, the technology came from America.

[Timexwatch]

Maybe Sava should take off his tinfoil hat and realize that the U.S. hasn't been the only supporter of Israel...

[Edan]

Originally posted by Sava
the technology came from America.

No, it didn't.

[KrazyHorse]

Sava, the French developed their own nuclear technology. Once the fifties rolled around there was enough general knowledge of nuclear physics etc. that any industrialised nation with the will to do it could develop a substantial nuclear arsenal.

[KrazyHorse]

France and Israel in the 60s were possibly closer than the US and Israel in the 60s. They'd just been cobelligerants, after all...

[Zylka]

Originally posted by Sava
Let me elaborate for some of our slower Apolytoners ... USA builds nukes, gives them to France who passes them on to Israel. And I'm sure with the billions of dollars of arms the US has given to Israel, there must be a few nukes there.

So in other words... it's a CONSPIRACY!!!

US builds nukes from the uranium mines in downtown Houston -> US gives nukes to France in exchange for Statue of Liberty -> France forwards nukes to Israel with USA label crossed out in red, with FRANCE label crossed out in red, with GOVERNMENT OF ZION ANTI-CHR chalked sloppily across remaining face -> Israel targets Mecca with nukes when innocent Palestinian baby convention arrives there -> Nukes intercept signals from US; of secret plans to put fluoride in our free range chickens and A STEALTH MONITORING DEVICE IN MY BACK TEETH

[Sava]

okay fine I'm wrong... jesus F christ... I love how this irrelevant tangent just spewed from my error...

[Andrew1999]

Originally posted by Tassadar5000
We should worry about the following countries using nuclear weapons:

PAKISTAN (against India, against US)
INDIA (against Pakistan, against China)
CHINA (against Taiwan, against US, against India)
North Korea (against US)
United States (against Iraq, against US)

The Russians are conspicuously absent from that list. Come on, there's got to be someone you want to nuke.

[Harel]

Originally posted by Sava
According to Nixon's own secret tapes, he wanted to use nukes in Vietnam. If the Iraqi people resist the US action (if there is action at all), you can bet your ass this will turn into another Vietnam. Or what if Saddam launches a WMD attack on Israel? Israel has already said it will retaliate. And all of Israel's nukes are "Made in the USA".

Actually, none of Israel nukes are made in the USA. Or even remotly related to the US.

[Master Zen]

French nukes were not solely thanks to US technology since after the war the US refused to share any of the technology even with allies like the British who made considerable contributions to the Manhattan Project.

Saying the French nuke technology came from the US is like saying the US nukes are thanks to european technology because it was mostly emigré european scientists who developed it.

[Joseph]

Originally posted by Edan


No, it didn't.

There some reports that LBJ gave the Israelis the bomb after the 67 war.

[Harel]

Originally posted by Joseph
There some reports that LBJ gave the Israelis the bomb after the 67 war.

No one gave Israel anything. Israel atomic research is indpendent, entirely, and does not originate neither in France or in America. Israel had atomic reactors for purposes of study even before the establishment of the nuclear reactor in Dimona.

Israeli and jewish scientists pioneered many parts of nuclear technology, both military and civilian. No one "gave israel the bomb" anymore then someone gave it to Russia.