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    Inspectors fail to find smoking gun

    · Blix report: Iraq not cooperating fully · No evidence of nuclear programme · US: we must have full compliance



    In a plain-speaking and detailed speech, the head of the UN weapons inspection team, Hans Blix, today provided no "smoking gun" that would indicate Iraq has built up an arsenal of weapons of mass destruction, but said that obstructions, inconsistencies and unanswered questions showed Iraq was not fully cooperating with inspectors.
    Mr Blix admitted that despite twelve years of international demands, Iraqi cooperation has been intermittent and incomplete, in stark contrast to the attitude South Africa had taken in destroying its nuclear arsenal.

    "Iraq appears not to have come to a genuine acceptance, not even today, of the disarmament that was demanded of it," he told the security council.

    Indicating that his teams required more time, Mr Blix referred to today's report as an update and said it represented only the "results so far". The US has argued that UN resolution 1441 - which paved the way for the resumption of inspections after a four-year break - did not envisage reports beyond the two months the inspectors have already had.

    The US ambassador to the UN, John Negroponte, immediately responded that he saw no evidence that Iraq will comply with UN resolutions.

    "They are not cooperating unconditionally," he said, warning that this approach to the UN weapons inspections was "back to business as usual" for Saddam Hussein and that the security council had to face its responsibilities.

    Report unlikely to convince doves

    Mr Blix's findings will probably not be enough to provide security council members China, France and Russia with a casus belli. They have all publicly favoured allowing more time for weapons inspections.

    He reported that Iraq had been cooperative on the process of inspections, particularly on providing access to the more than 230 sites already visited by UN personnel.

    "Access has been provided to all sites we wanted to visit and on the whole it has been prompt," Mr Blix stated.

    He also pointed out a number of obstructions and omissions by the Iraqi regime, including the possible production of VX nerve agent and proscribed Scud missile delivery systems. He said the Iraqis have refused to guarantee the safety of U-2 spy planes that inspectors want to use, and added that Iraq had failed to account for some 6,000 chemical rockets and stockpiles of anthrax.

    Inspectors plead for more time

    Making a diplomatic plea to continue his work, Mr Blix noted that the previous inspection regime destroyed more weapons of mass destruction that the first Gulf war. He ended the speech by reiterating to the coun c il that the inspectors now had access to eight helicopters and more inspection personnel.

    "The capability which has been built up over a short time and is now operational is at the disposal of the security council," he said.

    Mohamed El Baradei, the head o f the International Atomic Energy Agency, spoke just after Mr Blix to state categorically that his teams had found "no evidence that Iraq has revived its nuclear weapons programme". He also made a more direct plea for time.

    "Our work is steadily progressing and should be allowed to continue its natural course," Mr El Baradei told the council. "With our verification system now in place, barring exceptional circumstances and providing there is sustained, proactive cooperation by Iraq, we should be able in the next few months to provide credible assurance that Iraq has no nuclear weapon programme.

    "These few months in my view would be a valuable investment in peace because it would help us avoid a war," he said.

    US takes tough line on Iraqi compliance

    Just before Mr Blix stood up to speak, the White House reiterated that it was looking for a pass or fail from the report.

    "The United States will read the Blix report to see one thing and one thing very simple. Is Iraq complying yes or no? ... If the answer is only partially yes then the answer is no," said White House spokesman Ari Fleischer.

    Mr Fleischer said that, under the terms of a UN resolution passed in November, Iraq must provide a "full, final and complete" accounting of i ts weap ons.

    H e said: "It must comply in all regards, not in some regards, not in half regards, not in some areas but not other areas."

    In December, Iraqi officials handed the UN a 12,000 page dossier on Iraq's weapons programmes, in line with the UN re solution. However General Hasam Amin, of Iraq's national monitoring directorate, said at the time: "Iraq is empty of weapons of mass destruction. I reiterate Iraq has no weapons of mass destruction. This declaration has some activities that are dual-use."

    Both the US and Britain have insisted that the country does have weapons of mass destruction.

    The security council is due to debate the reports on Wednesday.




    War or no war yet?


    Blix

    "These few months in my view would be a valuable investment in peace because it would help us avoid a war," he said.

    Mohamed El Baradei, the head o f the International Atomic Energy Agency, spoke just after Mr Blix to state categorically that his teams had found "no evidence that Iraq has revived its nuclear weapons programme". He also made a more direct plea for time.




    We shall see
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  • #2
    I doubt US grants Months
    Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

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    • #3
      Maybe they will if under pressure from the "axis of weasel" plus the inspectors
      Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
      GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"

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      • #4
        1441 was very specific; Iraq had to not only let inspectors back in and provide them with unfettered access (which hasn't happened) but they also had to tell us were he's remaining weapons are or account for what happened to them. There is still 30k pounds of anthrex and botulism still unaccounted for. Iraq claims they destroyed them between 1998 and now but they haven't provided any proof plus after spending seven years hiding them from the U.N. is it likely Saddam voulintarially destroyed those bioweapons when inspectors were no longer forcing him to? Also why didn't he call a single reporter to see as he magnamoniously decided to destroy the bio weapons himself.

        1441 made it clear that the burden of proof was on Saddam to either produce the weapons we know he had as of 1998 or show clear evidience that they no longer exist. The Iraqis have done neither. That is a clear breach of the resolution.
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        • #5
          Iraq said it destroyed its VX and Anthrax, its SCUDS, and other such chemical warheads in '91. It has offered no proof. It has effectively denied access to scientists and others that could verify whether the chemical and bio weapons were destroyed. He has denied the use of a U2. He will not permit the use of copters that are not "escorted." He simply wants the world to take his word for it while continuing to block effective inspections.

          Without full cooperation from Iraq, there is no way to verify the truth of Iraq's declaration. What does Blix think he will achieve if he continues without cooperation?
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          • #6
            Saddam's plan is the same as it always has been. To drag on inspections as slowly as possible, to just barely provide the minimium of complience to avoid a restart of hostilities, and wait for the sanctions system to break down so he can rebuild to his pre-gulf war strength. I never thought I'd agree with Cheney but he's right; we'll never get Iraq to comply as long as Saddam is in charge and trying to prevent disarmorment.
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            • #7
              Well than it might just be war, but we will see as they say the security council meeting in on Wednesday, that day if it doesn't go well might even redifine 21st century
              Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
              GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"

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              • #8
                well the US will not fight until March at the earliest (I have heard)

                if this is true, than the inspectors can be there for another month

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Ned
                  Iraq said it destroyed its VX and Anthrax, its SCUDS, and other such chemical warheads in '91.
                  They said they did but in 1998 we had several defectors provide documants proving Saddam still had them and an on going WoMD program. So if he had them in 1998 where are they now? I don't buy Iraq's claim that they destroyed all of them the second U.N. inspectors left. He has them and he's hiding them ergo he's broken 1441.
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                  • #10
                    CNN has said the invasion force won't be in place until march so the inspectors can keep getting lead around like a donkey by Saddam. At this point the inspectors are little more then PR which both sides will try to us as propoganda.
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                    • #11
                      From the article.
                      "The United States will read the Blix report to see one thing and one thing very simple. Is Iraq complying yes or no? ... If the answer is only partially yes then the answer is no," said White House spokesman Ari Fleischer.

                      So if the answer was a 'partial no' then it would be a 'yes'. A typically illogical statement by the White House.

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                      • #12
                        Because, of course, going to war is more important that actually checking to see if Iraq is disarmed. This whole inspections thing was a joke, just to disarm opposition to the war while the US built up forces in the Gulf. The US always said that even if nothing was found, even if Iraq had been completely forthcoming, we'd still go to war because that would just prove that Iraq was lying. The US only wants war and war is what we're going to get.

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                        • #13
                          Nobody can stop your country, chegitz. Unfortunately.

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                          • #14
                            What's so wrong with killing *******s like Hussein and his thugs?

                            That part doesn't bug me near so much as the apparent lack of concern about having a real plan for what comes after.
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                            • #15
                              In all the English-speaking press, the more damning quotes from the speech lead the headlnes. I don't think the Axis of Weasel will gain much diplomatic traction by it.

                              The Guardian even had to quote some of the juicier stuff. I'm sure it nearly killed them.
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