Missing: US complicity in Latin American murderous coup d'etats

[Bereta_Eder]

You supported and actualyl faciliated regimes to take the power by force and kill hundrend of thousands of people.
There is no justification for that, and you tried to do it again in Venezuela.

You wonder why the world hates you when the answer is staring you in the face

[Sava]

Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
Why don't you focus instead on the shame of Greece and it's support of the Serbian murderers? When lookinf for a nation of blood that supports the murders of innocents, one need look no further then Greece.

pffft, I think this is a troll, but I feel sorry for you if you really believe this

[Clear Skies]

There are plenty of other examples...mostly justified by America looking out for its own interests. People have differing views on this, some think it's ok, others (myself included) think it isn't. I regard it as hypocritical that America says it's promoting democracy and human rights when in fact all it does is promote stability - imposing dictators on countries to protect business interests and often removing democratic governments. Others take different views, and I accept that.

[Bereta_Eder]

When people are killed by the thousansd just to protect US interests, you think this is justified?

[Clear Skies]

I don't, I thought I made that clear in my post. Not under any circumstances. But people always have the right to disagree with me...

[Bereta_Eder]

You think this is a point where "disagreement" is acceptable?

"We support regimes that go kill people by the thousands and wouldnt be in a position to do so without our help but we do it to further our interests"

_I agree
_I disagree

And that is fine? Amazing.

[Clear Skies]

I can't stop people from having a different opinion. I'll simply do all I can to prevent those people from getting into positions of power. I can't change the way they think.

[Chris 62]

So Paiktiss, how far back do you want to go, this is 2003, not 1973.

The pinheads today never even heard of what happened Chile.

BTW, your "Leftist" friends in Venezuela are busy trying to supress the people, who want the corrupt comunist dictator removed.

They shall be free.

[Clear Skies]

Grenada and the Dominican Republic spring to mind.

[Ozz]

Originally posted by Chris 62
So Paiktiss, how far back do you want to go, this is 2003, not 1973.

They shall be free.

They keep the evidence of whats' going on locked up and won't show it to us until it's leaked or everyone
involved is dead. When lately WW2 info has been
released after 50 years. Thence you have to use
what is avaliable as proven.

They found that they are strong, and they shall be free.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Sikander
There were good leftist leaders in Nicaragua?

Yes.

Who?

The Sandinistas

And why did the U.S. administration try to be nice to the Sandanistas until they were proven to be anti-democratic and a tool for Cuban / Soviet aggression in Central America?

Because the Somozistas hadn't reorganized yet and so there was no one for the US to give aid and money to.

Also, despite constant US declarations to he contrary, there was no Cuban/Soviet aggression in Central America, nor were the Sandanistas anti-democratic. Every election watcher in Nicaragua in 1984 declared those elections as free and fair except the US. Either we were wrong or everyone else was.

Ironically, given the massive funding to the opposition and the war waged gainst them, the US was kinda right, the elections weren't fair, but the Sandanistas were able to overcome that and win anyway.

And why would America's most internationally popular president ( Carter ) come to such a conclusion and begin the process of turning them into international pariahs?

Domino theory. Immediately after Somoza fell, the people of El Salvador tried to get rid of their corrupt and evil government. One good example of people fighting for their freedom and winning can set a whole region aflame.



As for the movie, in the sequence where they tell Jack Lemon's character they've found his son and they take him to the temporary morgue and he sees an American kid lying there who isn't his son, that's Frank Terrugi, one of the founders of New World Resource Center, a radical bookstore I once co-managed.