MICROSOFT IS BUYING BLIZZARD! Noooooooooo! :(

[Asher]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Now that I'm calm. What are the chances of it being an Xbox lead like Splinter Cell and not a complete exclusive?

Zero, if MS really did buy Vivendi's game division.

It'd be like putting Halo 2 on the Gamecube or PS2.

Xbox always was the lead development platform for Ghost, it was to be ported to the GCN and PS2 before release. I don't think the quality of the game would have been good on the GCN and PS2 to beginwith, since they'd be ports...

But I don't care at all about Halo 2 or Brute Force. Why should MS strip this little slice gaming goodness from me?

What about Fable? Psychonauts? Perfect Dark? Sam & Max? etc. None of those games do anything for you?

[Az]

Um...Azazel...there's far more developers now than there ever was in the history of games.

*thinks*that is truth. lots of new players from places like central and eastern europe, btw.

what I meant is that there is no innovation in new game types. you see:

Microsoft is one of the few developers to actually encourage innovation in games. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Blinx is an innovative platformer, Tao Feng an innovative fighter, etc.

no new game genres, just working with old basic ideas. I am craving for something revolutionary.

[Asher]

You mean like Rise of Nations? Which is, ironically, a Microsoft game...

And what genre would you place GTA3 in? Midtown Maddness 3?

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Asher
I don't think the quality of the game would have been good on the GCN and PS2 to beginwith, since they'd be ports...

It still would likely have been better on the GCN than on the PS2 simply on the basis of hardware alone.

What about Fable? Psychonauts? Perfect Dark? etc. None of those games do anything for you?

I've never heard of the first two and I never got around to playing Perfect Dark 1 on the N64.

Thankfully, Blizzard is likely to remain primarially a PC game developer even if the MS deal goes through.

[Drake Tungsten]

I don't think the quality of the game would have been good on the GCN and PS2 to beginwith, since they'd be ports...

I agree. Ports do suck, as MGS2: Substance proved.

[Asher]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
I've never heard of the first two and I never got around to playing Perfect Dark 1 on the N64.

Fable is Project Ego, they renamed it.
Psychonauts is the game by Tim Schaffer.

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
I never got around to playing Perfect Dark 1 on the N64.

Anyway, hopefully Microsoft will then force Blizzard to make STARCRAFT 2 for the PC ON ITS OWN.....But seeing how blizzard is making some FPS on a console (and letting another developer do it), I highly doubt anything will change it....

[SnowFire]

Sigh... Ashie, Ashie...

Even if this deal DID go through, that's hardly a guarentee that "all the multi-platform console games will go XBox only." Just like after Sony bought a good chunk of Square, Square still didn't stay PS2 only. Now, would they encourage more games to be ported to the Box, and maybe encourage more new XBox games? Sure, I bet they would. But I don't think they'll toss out all the previous work.

And why do you say that Ghost is being done XBox first, then port? Any source?

[Asher]

Originally posted by SnowFire
Sigh... Ashie, Ashie...

Even if this deal DID go through, that's hardly a guarentee that "all the multi-platform console games will go XBox only." Just like after Sony bought a good chunk of Square, Square still didn't stay PS2 only. Now, would they encourage more games to be ported to the Box, and maybe encourage more new XBox games? Sure, I bet they would. But I don't think they'll toss out all the previous work.

This makes no sense.
First, Sony bought less than 10% of Square. MS is buying 100% of Vivendi's game division, if this is true.

And yes, they WILL toss out all of the previous work. That's what Rockstar did when Sony signed them to an exclusive contract: the Xbox game was scheduled to ship a couple months after E3 but was cancelled due to the deal.

MS would certainly NOT publish any games for the PS2 or Gamecube...you're smoking something if you think they will.

And why do you say that Ghost is being done XBox first, then port? Any source?

Every single one of the screenshots released have been Xbox screenshots, figure it out.

[DinoDoc]

Thanks for the reality check, Snow. I needed it.

[Asher]

Snow is on something, Dino.

Do YOU honestly believe MS would publish GCN and PS2 games once they acquire Vivendi's game division?

His example of Sony and Square is laughable, Sony has such a pathetically small stake in Square and MS is buying 100% of Vivendi...

[Asher]

If we followed Snow's logic, Kameo would be released for the Gamecube in 2003.

But once MS bought Rare (100%, again), Kameo was changed to be exclusively Xbox...

Same thing will happen with Ghost and all other multiplatform/other platform games Vivendi is working on.

[Az]

You mean like Rise of Nations? Which is, ironically, a Microsoft game...

And what genre would you place GTA3 in? Midtown Maddness 3?

Rise of nations looks to be great. however it is still an RTS.

GTA3, together with Sims, are perhaps the most innovative games made in the last years. true, both were made by the big boys, but my point is if the big boys held less power, there would be more of those.

[Asher]

GTA3, together with Sims, are perhaps the most innovative games made in the last years. true, both were made by the big boys, but my point is if the big boys held less power, there would be more of those.

The exact opposite is usually true.

Innovative games are exceptionally risky. You need a big-boy to fund the project for the most part, one with deep pockets and can take a loss if the game flops.

[Frankychan]

Hmmm, I thought Squaresoft agreed to be 'PS2-exclusive' for a coupla years? I've read that Square and Sony have a contract going on.

As for 'Ghost', I hope its not going to be Only On X-Box. I wouldn't mind trying that game out.

But as for Splinter Cell *drool*...I hear it's coming out on PS2 so I finally get to play THE game I've been looking forward to. All I have to do is wait.

Oh yeah, as for the classification of GTA, I'd personally put it under Action. But unfortunately I see other game developers trying to make copies of it instead of trying to find their own innovativeness. I like GTA, but come on, lets get new stuff out there instead of the same old game style.