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  • #16
    Originally posted by lord of the mark
    i voted for Brahms 4th.
    Good man! I could probably spend an entire thread discussing the 4th and the 14 or so different recordings I have of it.


    I also like Prokoviev's Classical symphony.
    D'Oh! Another one that should be on the list! And even I missed it...
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    • #17
      Originally posted by S. Kroeze
      Since I have to uphold my reputation as an elitist, pretentious snot, I voted 40th Symph. in g by W.A.Mozart.
      In G minor actually.

      Actually I prefer his 38th Symph. in D, the Prager, but I couldn't vote for it -understandably since it is less well-known.
      What does being well-known have to do with it? He's asking for the best. That could be an obscure one.

      In my view Mozart was the last first-rate composer!
      Pish-posh! Mozart is overrated.

      My favourite Brahms Symph. is his IInd in D.
      The Brahms 2nd is my least favorite among his four symphonies. That is to say, it is the least excellent. But still excellent, nonetheless.

      Generally I do not like Beethoven, though I am willing to admit he is a great composer. I prefer his VIIth Symph. in A.
      I honestly don't understand people who enjoy classical music but don't like Beethoven...it's like enjoying Italian opera but hating Puccini!

      It's a pity Josquin desPrez didn't compose symphonies...
      And it's a pity Bach didn't write jazz numbers, too.
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      • #18
        "As for a specific recording, I'm partial to both the Riccardo Muti and the George Szell. I haven't heard it, but the recent Kurt Masur one is supposedly good as well."
        And where on God's green earth does one get these??? How expensive are they?
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        • #19
          Banana. As in "none of the above".

          "Pictures at an Exposition" is my favorite. "William Tell Overture" is a close 2nd. "The Planets" is right up there, too.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by monolith94
            "As for a specific recording, I'm partial to both the Riccardo Muti and the George Szell. I haven't heard it, but the recent Kurt Masur one is supposedly good as well."
            And where on God's green earth does one get these??? How expensive are they?
            try www.towerrecords.com
            or www.amazon.com
            or www.barnesandnoble.com

            And search under classical recordings. You should be able to search by work title, composer, conductor, orchestra, label, etc.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by cavebear
              Banana. As in "none of the above".

              "Pictures at an Exposition" is my favorite. "William Tell Overture" is a close 2nd. "The Planets" is right up there, too.
              None of which are symphonies, so none of which would qualify for the poll.
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              • #22
                Symphony of the night. (Castlevania)
                :-p

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Boris Godunov In G minor actually.
                  Quite right; that's why I used lower case and NO CAPITAL.

                  What does being well-known have to do with it? He's asking for the best. That could be an obscure one.
                  I merely wanted to point out that in my opinion the Prager is the greatest symphony; yet I couldn't vote for it. And I don't blame the person who made this poll for not mentioning it, though it is not an obscure one.
                  He made an intelligent selection, though it didn't contain any modern piece of music (Schostakovitsch for example)

                  I honestly don't understand people who enjoy classical music but don't like Beethoven...it's like enjoying Italian opera but hating Puccini!
                  I do not have something against Beethoven, but I don't like aggression, which in my highly subjective view is a main ingredient of Beethoven's music. I wouldn't invite him for dinner.
                  And you might have guessed that generally I prefer pre-classical music. My favourite composers are Josquin desPrez, Palestrina, Monteverdi, Bach and Mozart.

                  I like Italian opera -especially Monteverdi- but generally do not like Verdi, though again I am willing to admit he is a great composer.

                  And it's a pity Bach didn't write jazz numbers, too.
                  Didn't he?
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                  • #24
                    Since my two top favorites are not on the list (Mahler's 2nd and 6th respectively) I'll have to vote for his 1st ( I am very much a Mahler fan) tied with Brahm's 4th and Tchaikovsky's 6th.

                    Some Symphonies I think were left out:
                    Mahler's 2nd "Resurrection"
                    Mahler's 6th "Tragic" (a nickname I DO NOT like)
                    Bruckner's 5th (almost a universally ignored work)
                    Havergal Brian's 1st "Gothic" (the official largest symphony ever written)

                    Just out of curiosity, even though I know it is not a symphony, how many of you have heard of Schonberg's "Gurrelieder" ?
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Alex Woehr
                      Since my two top favorites are not on the list (Mahler's 2nd and 6th respectively) I'll have to vote for his 1st ( I am very much a Mahler fan) tied with Brahm's 4th and Tchaikovsky's 6th.

                      Some Symphonies I think were left out:
                      Mahler's 2nd "Resurrection"
                      Mahler's 6th "Tragic" (a nickname I DO NOT like)
                      Bruckner's 5th (almost a universally ignored work)
                      Havergal Brian's 1st "Gothic" (the official largest symphony ever written)

                      Just out of curiosity, even though I know it is not a symphony, how many of you have heard of Schonberg's "Gurrelieder" ?
                      I don't think I'm famillar with the latter symphony you mentioned, but I love Bruckner's 5th!
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                      • #26
                        Alex, That's two of us who would vote Mahler's 2nd No. 1.

                        I don't know if I have a favorite among the rest of Mahler's symphonies - but the 8th may be the best of the lot.
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                        • #27
                          Hello, I am a heretic

                          I just downloaded Beethoven's 9th since it's rated the highest here.

                          I don't understand. It seem's all over the place, chaotic to me...

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                          • #28
                            Re: Hello, I am a heretic

                            Originally posted by Asher
                            I just downloaded Beethoven's 9th since it's rated the highest here.

                            I don't understand. It seem's all over the place, chaotic to me...

                            Was Beethoven a drug addict?
                            Did you download the entire symphony, or just the finale (with the chorale), or what?
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Ned
                              Mahler's 2nd
                              ditto

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                              • #30
                                From the list, Beethoven No 5. But I voted banana, due to the glaring omissions.

                                Tchaikovsky No 4 is doubtlessly the best symphony of all time. The 2nd and 3rd movements are pure beauty.

                                Tchaikovsky No 5 is a very close second. The 1st and especially the 4th movements are the most triumphant things you will ever hear. Every time I play it I want to go conquer a country or something.

                                Beethoven No 5 is third. The 4th movement is truly awesome.

                                Since you mentioned Schubert, I will say his best symphony is No 9. Many critics say that only No 9 puts Schubert into the class of Beethoven and Mozart. Sadly, No 9 was discovered after his death so he never heard many of the accolades due him. Schubert No 9 definently belongs somewhere in numbers 4-10.

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