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    I have been doing a lot of thinking on the nature of righties who possess a certain modicum of intelligence lately, so I pose this question to you all: which of the following two hypothetical scenarios would you prefer?

    Scenario A: A worldwide communist worker's paradise where peace and brotherhood are the law of the land and everyone is happy, but you only make an average ammount of money.

    Scenario B: A world controlled by a right-wing dictatorship of a most brutal nature, where thousands die almost every day, and millions suffer. However, due to a fortuitous turn of events, your father was an extremely loyal supporter of the regime, and as a result you have a cushy government job that puts you in the top 1% of the population, income wise.

    Now ignore any reservations about the nature of communism, or of right-wing regimes. Just assume that everything I have said is literally true. Which of the aforementioned two scenarios would you prefer?
    Last edited by monkspider; January 20, 2003, 16:09.
    http://monkspider.blogspot.com/

  • #2
    Is there the possibility of me overthrowing the dictator and being worshipped as a god by the oppressed masses?

    (Starchild: Not rightwing, just self serving)
    Exult in your existence, because that very process has blundered unwittingly on its own negation. Only a small, local negation, to be sure: only one species, and only a minority of that species; but there lies hope. [...] Stand tall, Bipedal Ape. The shark may outswim you, the cheetah outrun you, the swift outfly you, the capuchin outclimb you, the elephant outpower you, the redwood outlast you. But you have the biggest gifts of all: the gift of understanding the ruthlessly cruel process that gave us all existence [and the] gift of revulsion against its implications.
    -Richard Dawkins

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    • #3
      Even if people actually do want #2, I think nobody will answer it.

      I'm a scenario #1 man myself.
      I refute it thus!
      "Destiny! Destiny! No escaping that for me!"

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      • #4
        Re: A question for Apolyton's righties

        Originally posted by monkspider
        I have been doing a lot of thinking on the nature of righties who possess a certain modicum of intelligence lately, so I pose this question to you all: which of the following two hypothetical scenarios would you prefer?

        Scenario A: A worldwide communist worker's paradise where peace and brotherhood are the law of the land and everyone is happy, but you only make an average ammount of money.

        Scenario B: A world controlled by a right-wing dictatorship of a most brutal nature, where thousands die almost every day, and millions suffer. However, do to a fortuitous turn of events, your father was extremely loyal supporter of the regime, and as a result you have a cushy government job that puts you in the top 1% of the population, income wise.

        Now ignore any reservations about the nature of communism, or of right-wing regimes. Just assume that everything I have said is literally true. Which of the aforementioned two scenarios would you prefer?


        Scenario A, of course. Unless you think every Lefty agrees with Stalin?

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        • #5
          this is not challenging enough. this is just a check how selfish they're.

          how about:

          An anarchist-capitalist system where full freedoms exist as described by the theories of Libertarians, but poor people suffer and die, from lack of medication, malnutrition, etc., This of course is supported by a group of individuals that form the executive and the judiciary branch that strictly adhere to those laws, NO MATTER WHAT, even violence, brutality, etc.

          OR

          Scenario A.
          urgh.NSFW

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          • #6
            What a loaded question.

            DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!
            If you look around and think everyone else is an *******, you're the *******.

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            • #7
              Re: A question for Apolyton's righties

              Originally posted by monkspider
              I have been doing a lot of thinking on the nature of righties who possess a certain modicum of intelligence lately, so I pose this question to you all: which of the following two hypothetical scenarios would you prefer?

              Scenario A: A worldwide communist worker's paradise where peace and brotherhood are the law of the land and everyone is happy, but you only make an average ammount of money.

              Scenario B: A world controlled by a right-wing dictatorship of a most brutal nature, where thousands die almost every day, and millions suffer. However, do to a fortuitous turn of events, your father was extremely loyal supporter of the regime, and as a result you have a cushy government job that puts you in the top 1% of the population, income wise.

              Now ignore any reservations about the nature of communism, or of right-wing regimes. Just assume that everything I have said is literally true. Which of the aforementioned two scenarios would you prefer?
              I absolutely am convinced that much of the world's leftism is caused by a reaction to Hitler, Tojo and Mussulini.
              http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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              • #8
                Which of the scenarios would you prefer though, Ned?
                http://monkspider.blogspot.com/

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                • #9
                  Except that Stalin and Lenin were on the scene earlier.

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                  • #10
                    Re: A question for Apolyton's righties

                    You know, I have been doing a lot of thinking on the nature of Lefties who possess a certain modicum of intelligence lately, so I pose this question to you all: which of the following two hypothetical scenarios would you prefer?

                    Scenario A: A worldwide Fascist paradise where peace and brotherhood are the law of the land and everyone is happy, and you can make as much jack as you damn well please.

                    Scenario B: A world controlled by a Left-Wing dictatorship of a most brutal nature, where thousands die almost every day, and millions suffer - ala Stalin, Pol Pot, etc. However, do to a fortuitous turn of events, your father was extremely loyal supporter of the regime, and as a result you have a cushy government job that puts you in the top 1% of the population, income wise. (Which is how the revolution of the proletariat turns out in case after case).

                    Now ignore any reservations about the nature of communism, or of fascism. Just assume that everything I have said is literally true. Which of the aforementioned two scenarios would you prefer?

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                    Now excuse me while I roll my eyes again:

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                    • #11
                      It's kind of a false delema.Why pretend nothing wlse exists when it does exist in the real world?
                      Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                      • #12
                        Given the stipulation that "A" is not possible in reality,
                        I'll choose "A".
                        Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                        "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                        He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                        • #13
                          Re: Re: A question for Apolyton's righties

                          Originally posted by Ned


                          I absolutely am convinced that much of the world's leftism is caused by a reaction to Hitler, Tojo and Mussulini.

                          What about the expansion of civil rights and welfare programmes? Leftism has been around for hundreds of years.

                          But yeah, people will go more left after experiencing people like Hitler, Tojo and Mussolini, just as people will go right after experiencing Stalin.

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                          • #14
                            I'm gonna have to say this isn't a very good dichotomy. A is setup as the wonderful one, so only a fool would chose B.

                            JohnT, while it's true that Stalin was on the scene earlier, his reign of terror really doesn't begin until Htiler rises to power. They were two sides of the same coin of reaction. Had Hitler been defeated, the USSR wouldn't have had the extreme threat of Fascism to "justify" the measures it took. Even futher, had the communists come to power in Germany, Stalin would have fallen, since his regime depended upon industrial scarcity.
                            Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Starchild
                              Not rightwing, just self serving)
                              To-may-to, To-mah-to...
                              Tutto nel mondo è burla

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