Some hypothetical quetions which causes you to think...

[Eli]

Originally posted by Starchild
Since this is a pressing moral issue, I'm assuming the kid is mine or in some way I have a vested emotional attachment to it. As I'm faced with a child I love on one hand versus millions of faceless strangers on the other, I've gotta go with the kid.

Well, the OP didnt specify what child it is, so I assumed random, therefore no one you know.

[Starchild]

Do I have to the killing physically myself or is there some sort of machine whose button I just have to press?

[loinburger]

#1: Yes
#2: No, Yes. I do, however, believe in zombies, and hooo baby, are they ever sexy. If there were zombies in the house, then I'd be there in a heartbeat.
#3: No, I'm not much in to cannibalism, and besides, even if the baby weighed several million pounds its death would still be only a temporary solution to world hunger. (Kill a million-pound baby, and you feed the world for a day. Clone a million million-pound babies, and you feed the world for a million days.)
#4: Have the kid. It would probably be a bit more challenging to have a blind/deaf child, but so what? Having any child would be challenging.
#5: Nope.
#6: I'd turn the ****er in. (BTW, in what scenario would I REALLY NEED five million dollars? )
#7: Keep the kid.
#8: Worse, since I'll probably be dead, and a world without loinburger is not a world I want to live in.
#9: I wouldn't want to know the date of my own death, but it might be fun to know the date of my friends'/relatives' deaths -- I could do things like throw darts at them or put them in meat grinders or whatever, just to see them miraculously survive again and again.

[JohnT]

"Nasty... it would depend on the child."

Well, that's nice.

Starchild - I think that to make it a better moral dilemma,

a. The child should be yours.
b. You should have to personally kill it.

imho.

[Nubclear]

Re: Some hypothetical quetions which causes you to think...

Originally posted by Sonic
OK, I think these questions will make your think a bit... Try to answer them.

Question #1:For a person you love deeply, would you be willing to move to a distant country knowing that there would be little chance of you ever seeing your family and friends again?

Yes.

Question #2: Do you believe in ghost? would you be willing to spend a weekend alone in a remote house that is supposedly haunted because death occured there?

Yes, No

Question #3:Would you be willing to take the life of a child if you knew this would cure world hunger and end starvation?

Yes, though I would feel guilt about it for the rest of my life.

Question #4:You are a couple who is expecting your first child. The doctor tells you that there is a 50 percent chance that the child will be blind and deaf. This is your one and only chance to have a child. Would you give up your only chance of having this child because he/she may be blind and deaf? Or would you take the risk and have it?

No. It's not worth the risk to put a child through such a thing.

Question #5:If you could spend 10 years in perfect happiness--having everything you could possibly want out of life, but afterwards would remember nothing of the experience, would you do it?

No. Theres no point if I dont remember it....

Question #6:A person that you know successfully
completes a robbery. Although he gets away with ten million dollars, a person dies during the robbery. Assuming this person will NEVER get caught and he/she offers you half the money (and you REALLY need the money) to keep quiet, would you take it? Or would you turn him in and get nothing? By the way, the person killed was a homeless person--a John Doe, and had no family.

Yes I would. The memory of the homeless person is best served if the money is used to help my family, not if some person gets thrown in jail.

Question #7:You discover your wonderful one year old child is, because of a mix up, not yours. When you start to search for your own child you are told it will take at least five years to find your child. Futhermore, you are also informed that it is possible that your child is no longer alive. Meanwhile, the one year old will be removed from your home. Do you risk having the only child you know as yours removed from home in order to wait five years to find your own child that may or may not be alive? Or do you just keep the child in your home and say nothing?

Quite simple: I hire someone else to go find my child, and I keep the one year old here.

Question #8: Do you think the world will be better or worse off 100 years from now?

Worse. Though in maybe 1000 itll be better.

Question #9: Would you like to know the date of your and your relatives/friends deathes? (assuming that you could do nothing to prevent those deaths).

Yes.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Originally posted by Sagacious Dolphin
I don't see how it is that different from killing an unborn child by abortion. There is a big difference legally and morally, but the end result is the same.

If it was a involuntary abortion you were forcing on someone then there may be some degree of proximity, but it wouldn't be as bad. The post-birth bonding wouldn't have happened.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Having a kid totally changes your outlook. I'm like an angry bear where kids are concerned these days.

Even if it's not a real event. I had a dream about a month ago where I was the first on the scene of an accident- a bus full of children hit by a landslide. There was a girl about the same age as my daughter (2) trapped by a rock that was crushing her legs. She was whimpering "I'm stuck".

Even with it being a dream, that still makes me want to howl in agony, or kill something. Moral judgements and valuations don't enter into the equation at all- I'd have to beat my brains out against a wall before I could harm a child, whatever the outcome might be.

[FrustratedPoet]

Fair enough Laz. I'll probably feel the same way when I have kids.

[Paul Hanson]

I think I'm the only one here who would answer "No" to No. 1.

[Shi Huangdi]

Re: Some hypothetical quetions which causes you to think...

"Question #1:For a person you love deeply, would you be willing to move to a distant country knowing that there would be little chance of you ever seeing your family and friends again?"

Probably.

"Question #2: Do you believe in ghost? would you be willing to spend a weekend alone in a remote house that is supposedly haunted because death occured there?"

I don't believe in ghosts, and I would be willing to spend said weekend.

"Question #3:Would you be willing to take the life of a child if you knew this would cure world hunger and end starvation?"

No.

"Question #4:You are a couple who is expecting your first child. The doctor tells you that there is a 50 percent chance that the child will be blind and deaf. This is your one and only chance to have a child. Would you give up your only chance of having this child because he/she may be blind and deaf? Or would you take the risk and have it?"

Keep the child.

"Question #5:If you could spend 10 years in perfect happiness--having everything you could possibly want out of life, but afterwards would remember nothing of the experience, would you do it?"

Sure.

"Question #6:A person that you know successfully
completes a robbery. Although he gets away with ten million dollars, a person dies during the robbery. Assuming this person will NEVER get caught and he/she offers you half the money (and you REALLY need the money) to keep quiet, would you take it? Or would you turn him in and get nothing? By the way, the person killed was a homeless person--a John Doe, and had no family."

How bad do I need the money? Do I need it a for a life saving medical operation for someone in my family? If I really needed it and I was confident the robber would never do it again I would do it.

"Question #7:You discover your wonderful one year old child is, because of a mix up, not yours. When you start to search for your own child you are told it will take at least five years to find your child. Futhermore, you are also informed that it is possible that your child is no longer alive. Meanwhile, the one year old will be removed from your home. Do you risk having the only child you know as yours removed from home in order to wait five years to find your own child that may or may not be alive? Or do you just keep the child in your home and say nothing?"

Try to get my real child.

"Question #8: Do you think the world will be better or worse off 100 years from now?"

Worse. The world's population is growing way too fast and it will become harder and harder to sustain it.

"Question #9: Would you like to know the date of your and your relatives/friends deathes? (assuming that you could do nothing to prevent those deaths)."

Yes.
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[Urban Ranger]

1. Why couldn't this person move instead?
2. No and why. What is the point? To prove whether there are ghosts or not? Suppose if there were indeed a ghost and it decided not to show up, then what?
3. Yes. This is only interesting if the person to be killed is you.
4. Why is this the only chance?
5. No.
6. Hm, how did the hobo die? Was he shot at point blank in cold blood? Was it an accident during the get-away? Did he just die of a heart attack when the robbery was occuring? What?
7. If he is not my kid, it must be somebody else's. His parents in all likihood would be worried sick about the kid. What right do I have over these poor people? I will return him to his actual parents. Except that if his parents have problems (know abusers, cannot provide for him, etc.) then I may consider keeping him.
8. Better.
9. What is the bloody point?

[orange]

Re: Some hypothetical quetions which causes you to think...

Originally posted by Sonic
OK, I think these questions will make your think a bit... Try to answer them.

Question #1:For a person you love deeply, would you be willing to move to a distant country knowing that there would be little chance of you ever seeing your family and friends again?

Yes.

Question #2: Do you believe in ghost? would you be willing to spend a weekend alone in a remote house that is supposedly haunted because death occured there?

No, and only if there was a purpose...otherwise I don't see the point.

Question #3:Would you be willing to take the life of a child if you knew this would cure world hunger and end starvation?

I probably couldn't bring myself to do it, but I think it would be 'for the greater good'.

Question #4:You are a couple who is expecting your first child. The doctor tells you that there is a 50 percent chance that the child will be blind and deaf. This is your one and only chance to have a child. Would you give up your only chance of having this child because he/she may be blind and deaf? Or would you take the risk and have it?

Don't see why not. I'd love him/her either way, and it's still only a coin flip.

Question #5:If you could spend 10 years in perfect happiness--having everything you could possibly want out of life, but afterwards would remember nothing of the experience, would you do it?

Sure, why not?

Question #6:A person that you know successfully
completes a robbery. Although he gets away with ten million dollars, a person dies during the robbery. Assuming this person will NEVER get caught and he/she offers you half the money (and you REALLY need the money) to keep quiet, would you take it? Or would you turn him in and get nothing? By the way, the person killed was a homeless person--a John Doe, and had no family.

No, I would turn him/her in.

Question #7:You discover your wonderful one year old child is, because of a mix up, not yours. When you start to search for your own child you are told it will take at least five years to find your child. Futhermore, you are also informed that it is possible that your child is no longer alive. Meanwhile, the one year old will be removed from your home. Do you risk having the only child you know as yours removed from home in order to wait five years to find your own child that may or may not be alive? Or do you just keep the child in your home and say nothing?

Search for my child.

Question #8: Do you think the world will be better or worse off 100 years from now?

Better.

Question #9: Would you like to know the date of your and your relatives/friends deathes? (assuming that you could do nothing to prevent those deaths).

Absolutely. I'd like to know when I am going...it would motivate me to do certain things ahead of time...it would also tell me when to get the best moments with people that might not be around much longer. I welcome death, I don't fear it.

[MRT144]

Re: Some hypothetical quetions which causes you to think...

1. no but in fact the oppisite is happening, there is a great diaspora of my friends from the bay area.
2.i dont believe in ghosts and id go to a "haunted" house
3.yes
4.id abort
5.sure!
6. take the money, keep mum
7.give the child up
8.worse
9.sure, then i can prepare to pay my estate taxes.

[OneFootInTheGrave]

Originally posted by FrustratedPoet
1 - Yes
2 - No and Yes
3 - Yes
4 - Have the kid
5 - Of course. What's the downside?
6 - Show me the money!
7 - Those options suck, I'd do neither of those.
8 - About the same
9 - Of course not.

heh... mine is pretty much the same, apart from 8 - I think it will be worse. And 7 - have the kid I have now, that's life, hope my own has a good life, but the one that is with me is like my own, so that is the decision, I am not saying I might not be thinking what happened to the real one, but in the same way if I gave this 1 YO away I could help thinking what happened to that baby. So suckage like #3, but go with what you have.